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Two million oppose Thaksin pardon

  • Published: 8/08/2009 at 02:22 PM
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More than two million had signed their names in opposition of the campaign to seek royal pardon for former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, Deputy Interior Minister Boonjong Wongtrairat claimed on Saturday.

The ministry had earlier ordered provincial governors and district chiefs nationwide to arrange tables for people who want to sign to show disagreement with the royal pardon seeking campaign by leaders of the pro-Thaksin United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD).

Mr Boonjong said he expected that by late next week, his ministry would be able to announce official number of people who disagree with the red shirts’ move to seek royal pardon for Thaksin.

UDD leaders, Veera Musigkapong and Jatuoporn Promphan, had on Friday insisted that they will submit the petition to the Office of His Majesty’s Principal Secretary on August 17.

House Speaker Chai Chidchob said he was confidence that the Ministry of Interior’s order on the signatures collecting campaign against Thaksin pardon will not lead to a severe social division because Thai people have the same beloved father - HM the King.

“I will next week invite Senate Speaker Prasopsuk Boondej and his two deputies to discuss ways for national reconciliation creating”, Mr Chai said, adding that after that he will invite representatives from political parties for a similar discussion.

Representative from the government will be invited after the premier had study proposals on charter amendment recommended by the parliamentary Committee for Reconciliation, Political Reform and Constitutional Amendment, he said.

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  • hurray

    Discussion 32 : 09/08/2009 at 09:28 PM32

    every action has a reaction.

  • AGREE WITH HYPERINFLATION

    Discussion 31 : 09/08/2009 at 12:06 PM31

    HYPERINFLATION wrote: "............One word to everyone though. Whether signing a petition or protesting, just remember to stay within the law. That advice applies to everyone independent of your political views. As long as all sides abide by this, the schism will eventually close. ...."

    The whole post is very true and very insightful.Well said.

    I reinfoce the section I have copied above. It's vital that everything take place within the law. If not, then we will sink quickly to being a lawless societry with no hope.

    It pains me that so many Thais want 'the law' official or uniofficial to be whatever is good for them. This has connections to the proven lack of accetpance of responsibility* shown by so many people. (*From research conducted many times by Chula university.)

  • BUBBA YOUR WRONG

    Discussion 30 : 09/08/2009 at 11:59 AM30

    BUBBA wrote: ".....The divisions that began after the September 2006 coup continue to grow because the same elements behind the coup refused to accept the democratic outcome of elections.

    Was Bush a great statesman, honest and moral? Is Berlusconi? Many leaders in democracies are voted in but people must wait for new elections. In Thailand the military seems to make sure they are the deciding factor, not the popular vote.

    I am not even sure that is a bad thing. But it is definitely not democratic, no mater how the PAD and its cohorts twist the truth. ..."

    Sorry Bubba, got to seriously challenge you on two points:

    1. Toxin came into power through massive vote buying, not through a democratic election.

    2. Bush - people wait until next election. There's a big difference, the USA has many working checks and balances which totally prevent him (Bush) or any president from abuse of power etc. Also, there is the possibility of impeachment, and it's close to impossible for a president to intimidate the judiciary etc. There no comparison Bubba.

  • Bubba

    Discussion 29 : 09/08/2009 at 11:11 AM29

    Paul Sjt discussion #28: the suggestion you make is absolutely clear.

    There is such hypocrisy from the PAD/military/current government against the opposition (in fact a majority opposition)

    They scream about not imposing on the king with the petition claiming it is not within the law, and then proceed to make a petition against the petition.

    The poor are being cornered more and more and when they react, they risk being considered irresponsible, paid off, moronic and anti-royalist.

    The divisions that began after the September 2006 coup continue to grow because the same elements behind the coup refused to accept the democratic outcome of elections.

    Was Bush a great statesman, honest and moral? Is Berlusconi? Many leaders in democracies are voted in but people must wait for new elections. In Thailand the military seems to make sure they are the deciding factor, not the popular vote.

    I am not even sure that is a bad thing. But it is definitely not democratic, no mater how the PAD and its cohorts twist the truth.

  • Paul Sjt

    Discussion 28 : 09/08/2009 at 10:24 AM28

    When will the PM set up a body to examine the signatures of this new petition to make sure no one was pressured into signing this one? I'm no fan of Thaksin but I swear this government is making me wonder if he was as bad as those currently in power want us to think. The division between Thais seems to be growing rather than shrinking and how will this new petition help to shrink the division between Thais?

  • Allan Beesey

    Discussion 27 : 09/08/2009 at 10:11 AM27

    checks and balances is right
    Mr T was dismantling democracy, remember many people say he had ambitions to be a Mahatir in Malaysia, that was his role model. He also thoroughly supported the Burma regime. Through nepotism and corrupt practices he was destroying democracy to build his own empire. rumours of destroying the monarchy to this end may well have some truth to them.

  • Gerd

    Discussion 26 : 09/08/2009 at 07:52 AM26

    Discussion 17 (Checks and Balances)

    You should get your facts right before making statements like: “This is a very wrong, very misleading, and very divisive statement”.

    It seems that you have no understanding of democracy or history at all. You better inform yourself about the US and the law that prohibits presidents to be elected more then twice and when that was introduced and who introduced it. (One tip is to check for Franklin Delano Roosevelt)

    However, your statement might refer to your opinion and that it is the reason why you put it up as a headline above your view stating that “this is a very wrong, very misleading, and very divisive statement”

  • Truth Decay

    Discussion 25 : 09/08/2009 at 03:37 AM25

    When are the easily led and ignorant Thai's going to wake up and see that Toxin is nothing more than your common variety low-life "Snake Oil" Salesman... his ridiculous rants and promises are the oldest trick in the book and date back to Caveman days. He's dying to lead you on, suck you in & then rob you blind to stuff his own pockets! He doesn't give a sh*t about any of you. If he did, then why isn't he sending money regularly to the poor and disadvantaged right now? He should be pumping money in on a monthly basis to help those in need as he claims to love. I haven't seen him donate a baht to the farmers since he was sucking on the Government bank account. Oh yeah, and his alleged "Scholarship" gifts don't count. First of all it's still only hear-say and secondly it was so highly publicised that it only stood to serve as more propaganda for his birthday bash. Any real philanthropist will donate in low key fashion to simply make it hit it's mark with no fanfare. This sociopath does nothing if it doesn't push the buttons on his name and bank account. And if you can't see it, then you're doomed to relive your nightmare existences over and over again. Oh yeah, and for all you Red Shirts... can I interest you in some Amway, Herbal Life and NuSkin products?! As Darth Vader once said..."All too easy." HAH! LOL!

  • Bubba

    Discussion 24 : 09/08/2009 at 01:20 AM24

    Dear hyperinflation discussion #22: You are wrong on two fundamental points:

    1) The majority in the country are the poor, not some hidden people not speaking out because they are content and living well. Those are the PAD and their ilk, and;

    2) There is maybe a small silent minority, but there is no silent majority.

    There however a "silenced" majority...

  • Unbelievable!

    Discussion 23 : 09/08/2009 at 12:43 AM23

    The justice system in Thailand seems to be turning into a popularity contest. Any corruption will go unpunished as long as you can get a good propaganda machine working for you. He still has the most serious charges outstanding - as they wouldn't continue with the cases without the defendant there to defend himself.

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