UDD: Red-shirt villages ‘lawful’

Published: 18/06/2011 at 03:54 PM
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The establishment of red-shirt villages is just a symbolic action of villagers that have the same political ideology and it is not in violation of the law, Suthin Klangsaeng, chairman of Mahasarakam United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD), said on Saturday.

Mr Suthin was responding to the order by Mahasarakam governor to take legal action against the establishment of red-shirt villages in this northeastern province on charge of violating the local administration law.

“If the establishment of red-shirt village is wrong, legal actions must also be taken against the established white colour villages, the free-drugs villages and many others,” he said, adding that several red-shirt villages had been long time set up in Udon Thani.

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Discussion 30 : 20/06/2011 at 03:20 PM30
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johninbkk, discussion 29

Agreed about media bias.

I'm, however, very skeptical that a community that defines itself in reference to a larger movement will treat all members of the community properly. I can't understand how this is possible. Which comes first? Community/village or the movement? Why has this community got the priorities mixed up?

I can't understand how someone could not be skeptical about this.
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Discussion 29 : 20/06/2011 at 10:29 AM29
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bencanuck D27 - There are videos by both insiders and outsiders. But I think the only real way to know, without a media bias, is to visit several and ask around.
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Discussion 28 : 20/06/2011 at 09:54 AM28
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rpt777, discussion 24

"I think 99% are not in favor of violence...the one percent that do are always the focus of the elite establishment"

They should be the focus of Red Shirt apologists making generalizations (like Mr Suthin in this article). That's called responsibility.
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Discussion 27 : 20/06/2011 at 09:47 AM27
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johninbkk, discussion 20

Thanks for the Youtube lead. I'll look into it. But does it answer the questions I've been asking about the history of these villages and how 'outsiders' are treated (in practice and on paper)? Are they videos by someone unconnected to the villages?
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Discussion 26 : 20/06/2011 at 05:43 AM26
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nowayout D25 - Did they 'rampage'? According to all the videos on youtube, they walked in peacefully (albeit illegally).
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Discussion 25 : 19/06/2011 at 11:30 AM25
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rpt777: disc 24: Unfortunately the 1% in favor of violence are the leaders and instigate their follower’s to follow them.

rpt777: disc 23: So because the blue shirts attacked the red shirts, the red shirts had the right to break through the police line at the hotel smash the lobby windows and doors rampaging through the lobby etc etc. Your logic is doesnt make sense.
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Discussion 24 : 19/06/2011 at 10:24 AM24
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D21.... I think 99% are not in favor of violence...the one percent that do are always the focus of the elite establishment that prefer to not discuss their government formed by adhoc military puppet masters. Even now the military does not like the fact that most people can see through the veil and look to be likely to reject them in the coming elections.
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Discussion 23 : 19/06/2011 at 09:55 AM23
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D20 John you are right about the events in Pattaya, The trouble was started by the Blue shirts. The Reds had announced that they would organize a march to the RC hotel and present a petition in protest of the government that they felt came to power by military manipulation. The Blue shirts, organized by Newin, came that morning and attached them with stones and slingshots and shot and killed one taxi driver. I watched it with my own eyes. The red shirts finally got through and pushed on the front door of the hotel, but security inside the hotel were pushing the door closed and the oposing forces finally stressed the door and it crumbled to pieces...( note the door was about 4 meters tall and it did not take much pressure to break it) This caused the government to cancel the ASEAN meeting as they claimed that they could not insure the safety of the attendees.
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Discussion 22 : 19/06/2011 at 09:31 AM22
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@19, no. It is not necessary to kick anyone out - they will leave of their own accord if they know what's good for them.
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Discussion 21 : 19/06/2011 at 08:04 AM21
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rpt777, dicussion 4

It was Mr Suthin who started the generalizations and claims for entire groups of people: "The red-shirts don’t like violence".

This is inconsistent with some of the speeches and actions from UDD members, and it's certainly not a very truthful of "full picture" statement.
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