Poll: Delay or stop controversial bills

Published: 1 Jul 2012 at 10.45
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A majority of people want a delay or cancellation of the charter amendment bill and the reconciliation bills to ensure the government survives, a Suan Dusit Poll revealed on Sunday.

The poll was conducted between June 25-30 on 2,562 people throughout the country to sound out their opinions on Thai politics.

Concerning the charter amendment bill, 45.23 per cent said it should be delayed for more study to make sure it is not intended to benefit any particular person or group of people so as to reduce conflict, 28.31 per cent said it should be cancelled since no amendments are really needed, and 26.46 per cent said the amendment process should continue because the charter currently in use is not acceptable.

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howell
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Discussion 27 : 01 Jul 2012 at 22.5027
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'...45.23 per cent said it should be delayed for more study to make sure it is not intended to benefit any particular person or group of people....34.36 per cent said growing opposition meant they should be delayed pending thorough studies and a better understanding of the issues'.

Encouraging signs that Thai people understand a lot more about what is really going on i.e. attempted Thaksin whitewash.
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Discussion 26 : 01 Jul 2012 at 17.4026
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Disc23 Genii "This is one of the campaign promises"
No it wasn't.
There was no campaign promise to create a bill that would whitewash anyone.
There WAS a promise to deliver tablet computers - BTW the deadline for the first major delivery of 30,000 passed yesterday without any UDD fans commenting.
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Discussion 25 : 01 Jul 2012 at 17.2725
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@D23: How many promises did Pheu Thai make during the election? Did people vote for Pheu Thai because their hearts and minds were burning with desire for a new constitution and to forgive all crimes committed by Red and Yellow Shirts? Or did they vote for Pheu Thai because they wanted a free tablet computer for their kids, a 300-baht minimum wage, 15,000 baht for their rice and lower prices at the supermarket and roadside stalls?

An election win is not blank cheque to do anything you want for the next four years. This poll is reflecting the mood of the people right now, and governments that don't listen to the people aren't truly democratic and will not last.
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Discussion 24 : 01 Jul 2012 at 17.0124
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Lancelot discussion 22 : " we are in democracy, the majority has to listen all the people."

Certainly the majority has to listen for al the people and respect opposition but, as a rule in any democracy in the world, in case of disagreement it is certainly not a group who represent 159 seats in the parliament who has to impose its view to a group who has a majoritarian 265 seats (without members coalition). If politic is not a salad, don't try to sell us salad as gold !!
If the bill is not approved by the majority of people, it has to be removed but don't only accept the rules of democracy when it goes in the way you want. The real problem is that there is a minority of 30 % of voters who can not accept those rules or only if they are at they advantages.
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Discussion 23 : 01 Jul 2012 at 16.5823
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The more accurate poll was voted on by the majority of the electorate which installed the PT government to do their business. This is one of the campaign promises and the PT have the right to move the bills forward by the democratic process just as the opposition have the right to oppose by the democratic process. The bills are being scrutinised by the CC now. IF the CC passes the bills then they should be forwarded without delay and the oppositon will have to accept the CC findings. Anything other than this will be non democratic. To note there certainly seems to be a media attack against these bills if you know what I mean.
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Discussion 22 : 01 Jul 2012 at 16.1622
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to#19 Subcoman
We never oppose the majority, we oppose the dictatorial manners of MP PTP mandated by this majority, and we questioned also the ways (vote buying, populist promise as toffee, etc....). A government which got majority cannot do what he wants, we are in deocracy, the majority has to listen all the people.
Sorry but you mix and misunterstand many problems. Politic is not a salad !!!!
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Discussion 21 : 01 Jul 2012 at 15.5021
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"The poll was conducted between June 25-30 on 2,562 people throughout the country to sound out their opinions on Thai politics." So 2,562 vs 68 millions people is the majority of Thai?
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Discussion 20 : 01 Jul 2012 at 15.3220
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Disc17 - For the past month you've been bleating that PT have a majority and can therefore pushing through whatever bill they wish because it's 'the will of the people'. You ignored all contrary points and insisted that you knew what 'the people' wanted.

Now there is a poll showing that you have been wrong for the past month, you try to change subjects. Address the issue. The Whitewash Bills are unpopular and will cause more hardship in Thailand... Debate that.
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Discussion 19 : 01 Jul 2012 at 15.2919
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Discussion 5 (and some others) it is very comical to see you today presenting the wishes of the majority as an example to follow : a month ago you were writing exactly the opposite by arguing that Hittler has been elected too so that the majority doesn't always have moral legitimacy to decide.
In others words, you are a curious "democrat" in an amazing no lose situation : when voters agree with you, you take them as an example, when exactly the same voters don't agree with you they don't have to be heard because after all, according to you, "HIttler, Mao and Pol Pot were supported by millions of people too" ....
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Discussion 18 : 01 Jul 2012 at 15.2218
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The General Sonthi is waiting the "voice of people"
This Poll give it to him.
Now the General Sonthi can withdrawl freely his own reconciliation bill...

"I am against minority intimidation of the democratic process." Abbub said.
Me too, that is the reason I was and am still against the redshirts minority who have so much disturbed the Thai Politic during 2009 and 2010...and continue in 2012....
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