People's Revolution

[stilljustbrowsing]

Why do you think he was overthrown when outside the country and did not have his passport removed when he temporarilly came back? I mean, he was allowed to leave the country while subject to leagal proceedings!
Some people are Sh..it scared of his power, knowledge, and manipulative ability.
"They" don't want him to appear in a THai court, his revelations could be too reveiling!
P.rem.ature feelings come to mind.

[Ian]

Why do you think he was overthrown when outside the country and did not have his passport removed when he temporarilly came back? I mean, he was allowed to leave the country while subject to leagal proceedings!
Some people are Sh..it scared of his power, knowledge, and manipulative ability.
"They" don't want him to appear in a THai court, his revelations could be too reveiling!
P.rem.ature feelings come to mind.

This has been said and pointed out so many times and yet people still don't get it.
It is really true that "The most blind are those who do not want to see"

[stilljustbrowsing]

Svens' observations are spot on.
There is something everyone is waiting for that cannot be spoken about. When that time arrives, I fear all hell will be let loose

[sven]

For several reasons, no revolution will succeed during the reign of Thailand's current, highly revered monarch.

[observer]

Could it be that many people, maybe for the first time, experienced that their elected leadership (Thaksin) actually did something for them. That a democratic election had some positive effects on them. That they were courted by a politician, and not just immediately before an election.

Could it be that people get really angry when the traditional elite destroys this by all means, repeatedly ignoring their vote which they think really mattered.

Could it be that they feel deprived of their honour when the traditional elite tells them they only do it for some cheap baht.

Could it be that Thais need a strong leader to get off their arse. That Thaksin is a proven strong leader.

Ok, point 1, 2, 3, (not the first coup, hopefully the last), but the point i would ask isnt the facts you bring up, cause i cant say why, but the timing? he was removed, by a coup in 2006, and the "people" didnt rise up then, not until the UDD came out last year when the DEMS got in (i mean in the "Popular uprising" that it is being called now. the timing is suggestive of the people not really giving a rats until someone pokes them in the arse. this comment isnt meant to be racist, but could it be that the majority of the "people" are lazy. and as long as things are ticking along, never mind. Someone shows up, gives them a reason to be pissed off, and away it goes?

Which leads me to my last thought, if the UDD hadnt used Taksin, but had instead shouted about plain vanilla democracy, would the REDS be the force they are now?

Point 4, They need a strong leader, but i think Taksin is the wrong man (my personal opinion) He isnt a honest person, and doesnt have the people or country at heart. He is very clever, and knows that to stay in office, he needed to make the biggest group of people happy, not the "Elites" (simple maths, there are more of them). but in the end, i believe his greed did him in. He could have been a GOD to ALL THAIS if he had just kept his hands out of the cookie jar.

[stilljustbrowsing]

The meek are still waiting for their "inheritance' meanwhile their destiny appears to be in the hands of others who will not die easily. Show me an honest leader!
Just as an afterthought, what makes good people bad or bad people good?

[observer]

Svens' observations are spot on.
There is something everyone is waiting for that cannot be spoken about. When that time arrives, I fear all hell will be let loose

When that time arrives, i will be buying an open ticket out of Thialand and waiting at the airport, just in case.

if the shat hits the fin, bye bye

[stilljustbrowsing]

May I suggest U-tapao airport? The others will be closed already.

[sven]

For several reasons, no revolution will succeed during the reign of Thailand's current, highly revered monarch.

hi sven, and afterwards? we are much afraid.....

Very difficult to imagine, and quite frightening

IMHO, both sides already get into position:

- Thaksin camp shoots at \\ //// and his entourage, so in the likely case that they should stay in power with the crown heir, this will be highlighted and subject to criticism, not only from the Thaksin camp.

- Royalist camp shoots at Thaksin camp via the Lese Majeste police, which is heavily beefed up for the crown heir and probably more intertwined than now, \\ //// and his entourage.

The chances that the crown heir in the beginning will be as widely and deeply revered as HMK is now, are very slim, imho.

Judging from the huge number of internet sites censored and the deterrence and climate of fear created already today, it might get a very hard and nasty fight. Much will depend on the strength and wisdom of the crown heir. I fondly think of ////// Juan Carlos of Spain, who surprised the world, but especially the cronies that bet on him.

[Voice]

Villager wroye,
Hi Voice, both Russia and China had a peoples revolution,s did,nt they , only to be replaced by leaders who were fare worse than the originals , how many people died 30/ 40 million? no one will ever know, if the REDS win this one there is no doubt who will rule here again, if not in person but by his "lackeys" who will bow to his every whim,for me this hardly instils confidence for the future of this country, and i will always remember the words of comrade Lenin,when he confided to a close friend that his followers were "useful fools" much the same as the UDD are now , who are just being used as tools to achieve Thaksins lust for power and wealth, for the reds to have Thaksins banners flying and proclaim to the world that they are fighting for Justice, freedom ,and democracy is akin to a turkey voting for Christmas.

Yes Villager, you’re not far off the mark when you quote what Lenin speaks to his friend. Once in Mexican revolution it was said the by the bandit leader he said while many of our people will dies to put our leader to run our country once they have get they would have forgotten us anyway. Again Villager the red will follow their leader the same as the yellow do so they all “useful fool”

I my opinion when PAD did overturn elected government I think it was wrong for them to destroyed Democracy whether it for the right or wrong reason it still very wrong indeed. If people think that their government doesn’t deserve to be there looking after the country I am sure they will be voted out. If the Dem really wants to run the country they should ask people for that permission so there will be no confusion what so ever about who is the people choice. So an early election would have been an ideal. Remember that the dem has reach here because of the influence of PAD action.