The Beginning of the End? Or The End of the Beginnning?

[Hard_done_by]

The EC recommends winding up the Democracy Party, so where will it leave T-land if the Democracy Party is dissolved? Will the PAD step in and fill the breech? or will Somchai return as P.M.? or, will Mr. T. come back and make T-land that happy place the red shirts dream about?

[wesway9]

If the Democratic Party is dissolved by the constitutional court three things will happen; their will be new elections for MP's, Abhisit will be barred from politics for 5 years, and the Democrats will establish a new party name and regroup there. The elections would be a fierce battle between Pheu Thai party (Thaksin), and the new Democratic party. If Pheu Thai wins the most seats, they will form a new government and elect a PM (a proxy for Thaksin). Then they would try to pardon Thaksin of his crimes, and bring him back to Thailand to return to power.

And that would be a disaster for Thailand. Thaksin is as crooked as they come, and speaks with a forked tongue.

Does that answer your question?

[blackout]

i can not see how the end will turn out to be as for now. for as long as the red try their best not to talk and even they talk but if they can not find a common ground (both side loose some but the country as a whole gain) the new election won't help a thing for sure.

election won't help any more until some consensus on how democracy should work has been sat and most importantly "agree" by both side then the parliament can lead the country as a country. Not thaksin's country or anti-thaksin's country.

[Bill@Bangkok]

I think it’s a simple, normal game of politics played here,
the tactics aptly lifted from any political leadership.

Such tactics & games are used by most countries to get their agenda across.
Eliminate some of our own, call them martyrs, erupt pandemonium, get agenda done.

Thaksin should hire better thinkers in his side to change the game a bit atleast.

Politics 101:

Step1:
Spend money to create a protest rally. Pay 500 baht per person & a free trip to Bangkok from up-country, bring in thousands, if not hundreds of protestors from less-developed provinces
Pheasants & not so important people, who are just statistics populace.

Step 2:
Make the stand-off last long enough to be seen by the media, world, etc.

Step 3:
Hire a sinister group of paid assassin snipers, with weapons, to kill a couple of their own red shirts,
And also shoot down some army personnel.
In the spur of moment, both sides get instigated, and retaliate,
bringing down more numbers on both sides.
Get more get injured in the stampede & rioting.
Thank god the Thais are peaceful people and it stopped at 21 killed & 800++ injured.

Step 4:
Show claims to red shirts that army killed your cadres, fight harder for democracy,
Convey the idea that the present leadership is their enemy.
And to the world show that the present Thai Government has killed democracy by crushing the protestors, and ask them to step down.

Step 5:
If re-election takes place, spend & buy votes @ 500 baht per vote, and get back into power.
Start up corruption business again with own agenda.

Moral:
These are the evils of democracy, where the illiterates are allowed to vote;
who can only see the flashy 500 baht before them, & not see the long term goals…
The illiterate masses bring a Government to power, & not the literates, who know the consequences
Welcome to democracy!

Simple Thaksin political math:

Let’s say if 35 million votes are to be bought to win an election, @ 500 baht per vote, from pheasants & up country rural folks.
It would cost 35 million x 500 baht = 17 billion baht = 500 million Dollars
Which is like peanuts for Thaksin and he will reap this in the first 3 months of his tenure.

[tommycrown1]

First SHOOTING ON and KILLING 17 Redshirt and injurd over 800 on saturday the 10 of april. -On thuesday the 13 of april
is Abishit and foreign minister calling the Redshirt terrorists....The whole world is thinking what problem they have.....People with a normal brain understand!

Me to....But looks like its hard to do if you living in a glassbubble in Bangkok with a governement controlled TV every night. Try YouTube!

Puuuuuh!

[LEFastheysay]

I am pretty sure a false flag tactic was used here. However, I'm not sure which side flew it. The state of inertia almost demanded action of some kind (by either side), so maybe something was required to move things along?

Nothing surprises me, there are plenty of previous false flag operations around the globe over the years.

Either way, it's very sad to see what happened. People should not die for their opinion.

[villager]

I am pretty sure a false flag tactic was used here. However, I'm not sure which side flew it. The state of inertia almost demanded action of some kind (by either side), so maybe something was required to move things along?

Nothing surprises me, there are plenty of previous false flag operations around the globe over the years.

Either way, it's very sad to see what happened. People should not die for their opinion.

AS far as the Reds are concerned the only opinion they have is the one given to them by the red leaders for which their reward is 500 baht a day.

[villager]

I think it’s a simple, normal game of politics played here,
the tactics aptly lifted from any political leadership.

Such tactics & games are used by most countries to get their agenda across.
Eliminate some of our own, call them martyrs, erupt pandemonium, get agenda done.

Thaksin should hire better thinkers in his side to change the game a bit atleast.

Politics 101:

Step1:
Spend money to create a protest rally. Pay 500 baht per person & a free trip to Bangkok from up-country, bring in thousands, if not hundreds of protestors from less-developed provinces
Pheasants & not so important people, who are just statistics populace.

Step 2:
Make the stand-off last long enough to be seen by the media, world, etc.

Step 3:
Hire a sinister group of paid assassin snipers, with weapons, to kill a couple of their own red shirts,
And also shoot down some army personnel.
In the spur of moment, both sides get instigated, and retaliate,
bringing down more numbers on both sides.
Get more get injured in the stampede & rioting.
Thank god the Thais are peaceful people and it stopped at 21 killed & 800++ injured.

Step 4:
Show claims to red shirts that army killed your cadres, fight harder for democracy,
Convey the idea that the present leadership is their enemy.
And to the world show that the present Thai Government has killed democracy by crushing the protestors, and ask them to step down.

Step 5:
If re-election takes place, spend & buy votes @ 500 baht per vote, and get back into power.
Start up corruption business again with own agenda.

Moral:
These are the evils of democracy, where the illiterates are allowed to vote;
who can only see the flashy 500 baht before them, & not see the long term goals…
The illiterate masses bring a Government to power, & not the literates, who know the consequences
Welcome to democracy!

Simple Thaksin political math:

Let’s say if 35 million votes are to be bought to win an election, @ 500 baht per vote, from pheasants & up country rural folks.
It would cost 35 million x 500 baht = 17 billion baht = 500 million Dollars
Which is like peanuts for Thaksin and he will reap this in the first 3 months of his tenure.

Hi Bill, obviously you are a very astute no nonsense type of guy who writes it like it REALY is, my compliments.

[Hansa]

I think it’s a simple, normal game of politics played here,
the tactics aptly lifted from any political leadership.

Such tactics & games are used by most countries to get their agenda across.
Eliminate some of our own, call them martyrs, erupt pandemonium, get agenda done
...

Man, you must be a political adviser or something.

[Hansa]

I am pretty sure a false flag tactic was used here. However, I'm not sure which side flew it. The state of inertia almost demanded action of some kind (by either side), so maybe something was required to move things along?

Nothing surprises me, there are plenty of previous false flag operations around the globe over the years.

Either way, it's very sad to see what happened. People should not die for their opinion.

AS far as the Reds are concerned the only opinion they have is the one given to them by the red leaders for which their reward is 500 baht a day.

Villager is the kind of guy who fits right in with the 'educated' supporters of military rule. His attitudes towards those who disagree with him is legendary in this forum. Why he calls himself Villager is beyond me though. He is very far from being a common member of any Thai village, his superior intelligence and work ethics would exclude him from that.