The P.A.D.

[Hard_done_by]

"... Asked if the People’s alliance for Democracy (PAD), which also opposes the dissolution, might take to the streets again, Mr Banharn said the PAD had nothing to do with the reconciliation plan. ..." (emphasis added)

http://bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/176896/roadmap-gets-support-from-banharn

Now the lesson has been learned that mobs are able to intimidate government when the military keeps it's powder dry, will the P.A.D. move in to take the vacuum on the streets of Bangkok left by the U.D.D., or will it move in to take the political vacuum left by the democrats and Mr. A.?

[trtrz]

"... Asked if the People’s alliance for Democracy (PAD), which also opposes the dissolution, might take to the streets again, Mr Banharn said the PAD had nothing to do with the reconciliation plan. ..." (emphasis added)

http://bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/176896/roadmap-gets-support-from-banharn

Now the lesson has been learned that mobs are able to intimidate government when the military keeps it's powder dry, will the P.A.D. move in to take the vacuum on the streets of Bangkok left by the U.D.D., or will it move in to take the political vacuum left by the democrats and Mr. A.?

given that the majority of the people is sick of these demonstrations, including ex-PAD supporters, taking the street would be a stupid move and probably self-destructive for PAD.

[alex1]

It's not over yet, just wait the rainy season has pased. Maby we might whitness the desruption of election champains of
other partys in the reds strongholds upcountry, or they might not be allowed by the reds, even to show up.

[Hard_done_by]

Hard your post is so so correct, this is why NO Nation negotiates with terrorist as Abhihits has been as if he was playing patty cakes withrhem instead of acting out his sworn roll as a prime minister and a country's alleged leader.Now any gang will grasp the keys too the city and or country with this lenience of stupidity in my view

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/05/05/politics/PMs-road-map-timing-wrong-PAD-30128577.html

"... "The prime minister's road map is a good idea and is supported by many people. But it comes at a wrong time, which may make it difficult to succeed," Suriyasai said. "While the society is still unable to tell right from wrong, the process for national reconciliation will never reach its goal. It will just offer a way out for the mob leaders and the Abhisit government, but not Thai society as a whole." ..."

[kcw226]

Depending on which side of the fence you are on. The PAD are also a bunch of terrorist.

They engineer

1. The occupation of the Goverment house and loot it.
2. Took to the streets just like the Red do. Only that they is no violent because the goverment that time did not crack down on them. If they were crack down, you may see more blood then.
3. Occupy the airport and resulted to the lost of billion of Baht.
4. They have no respect for the country side folks. They do not believe one man one vote. So who are these people.

They are just another bunch of terroist in in a monkey suit. See how Foreign Monister Kasit talk in Public ? like a hooligan.

wrong time wrong place has harmed many as history proven his dream map is great if the country didn't have Thaksin lurking and terrorist in the center of bkk loaded with grenade launchers,hes school boy thinking is a embarrassment of a country and handing it over to fugitives and terrorist instead of preforming such as a world leader,he failed flat on his face and was deep over his head ,this is his out as a failure and back the country will end up in terrorist hands and criminals of the future.This move will be one of Thailand hardest mistakes ever to recover from once the terrorist have the key to the country threw bought elections once again but fuel with divide and anger.As Thaksin prepares for his return in the up coming days,a Thai government collapse to terrorist and thaksin.Thailand I lost all pity in its people for no fighting for their own freedom and to allow this .What will the next bunch of terrorist name themselves if this plan is disliked,Abhist harmed Thailand more than Thaksindeserves what its gets,

[Jefferson]

KCW..........how many grenades did the yellows fire? Did the yellows and their guards have war weapons? During the yellow demonstrations, how many Thai government buildings were attacked with grenades?

KCW to say that the reds and yellows are the same and that the airport demonstration was the same thing as is happening now in Bangkok is plain and simply wrong. Your red bias is showing.

Now, before you yell at me, please note that I am not a yellow shirt, as I think both the yellow and red demonstrations are wrong and should be punished. But in my view the reds are far more wrong. Why?.......well (a) almost nightly grenade attacks somewhere; (b) guards armed with war weapons; (c) black-shirted warrior support; (d) a hospital invasion and closure........and I could go on and on. And the entire time, the daily red lies about being peaceful and unarmed. Methee's testimony alone proves how wrong you are.

And what is your point anyway? Are you saying that yellow airport takeover makes it OK for reds to launch grenade attacks all over town?????

[Hard_done_by]

Hi again Jefferson,

The UDD is off to dismantle the 'road map' already:-

"... The mission of the United front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) has not yet completed as it has to support Puea Thai Party to win the next election, UDD co-leader Weng Tochirakarn said.
...

But the red-shirts must also make sure that Puea Thai Party will include a plan to reinstate the 1997 constitution in its policy, he stated. ..." (emphasis added)

Yes, and you know what will happen if the old constitution comes back, don't you?

[kcw226]

Jefferson...my red bias is showing.... so is your YELLOW bias.

The Red have been attacked by the army... were the Yellow been done the same by the army ????

If they ever been done, I am sure you will not only see grenades.... even missiles will be fired.

So who is more bias here ?????

KCW..........how many grenades did the yellows fire? Did the yellows and their guards have war weapons? During the yellow demonstrations, how many Thai government buildings were attacked with grenades?

KCW to say that the reds and yellows are the same and that the airport demonstration was the same thing as is happening now in Bangkok is plain and simply wrong. Your red bias is showing.

Now, before you yell at me, please note that I am not a yellow shirt, as I think both the yellow and red demonstrations are wrong and should be punished. But in my view the reds are far more wrong. Why?.......well (a) almost nightly grenade attacks somewhere; (b) guards armed with war weapons; (c) black-shirted warrior support; (d) a hospital invasion and closure........and I could go on and on. And the entire time, the daily red lies about being peaceful and unarmed. Methee's testimony alone proves how wrong you are.

And what is your point anyway? Are you saying that yellow airport takeover makes it OK for reds to launch grenade attacks all over town?????

[alex1]

So it's time to amend the constitution.
1. To avoid election frauds, The post of PM is to be given to the highest bidder. He will be granted the right
to form the government. There is no fixed term.
2. The government may not be involved to govern the country, as this is the duty of military and police to do so.
3. To uphold peace and order, the police and military are supposed to be bystander only to ensure militants don't
get hurt. To take in account the high risc to serve the country in doing nothing, a special financal award may be
granted.
4. whatever mob has the constitutional right, to intimidate whatever government even with Weapons in a adequte
quantity, to ensure its demands are considered. Such activities may not extend happen twice a year.
The elite of whatever mob is to be given immumity to underline the democratic status of the country.

[kcw226]

What you your expect the Red to do when the Goverment with it's police and army backing come rushing in firing... more than 22 are then killed. Are the reds suppose to sit still and get shot ?

Just think about it. Who provoke who ?

When the PAD occupy the goverment house and airport, did the army do the same for that matter ??????.. no they did not. They just sit still.

KCW, it is now very clear that you do not wish a rational discussion of the present reality[/quote]