Is Terrorism Privileged?

[Hard_done_by]

How does parliamentary privilege extend to a get-out-of-jail free card?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/39007/jatuporn-says-reconciliation-process-a-sham-warns-that-udd-is-biding-its-time

[taurus]

How does parliamentary privilege extend to a get-out-of-jail free card?

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/39007/jatuporn-says-reconciliation-process-a-sham-warns-that-udd-is-biding-its-time

Yeah HDB, it could well be that the vast amounts of money allegedly on offer to those who strive to bring the Abhisit Govt to its knee's through civil insurrection that we may well see a repeat performance ,after all every man has his price as they say and this includes the red leaders and their paid lackeys , http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politic ... /uncovered

[taurus]

Looking at the figures published in the Bangkok Post, the list includes every bank transactions over a nine month period of a number of public companies that the Department of Special Investigation suspects of supporting the UDD. These figures will have included salary payments, regular purchases, taxation and all manner of regular and legitimate business payments and receipts. Altogether these amount to some 120 billion of the 150 billion claimed by the DSI.

Most of the balance appears to have been withdrawals by members of the Shinawatra family, presumably anxious to get as much of their money as possible out of the country. The figures have obviously been put together by an economic illiterate with no knowledge of how businesses operate.

The above was an extract from the Australian National University's blogspot, New Mandala. It was written by a professor of economics. Any other comments by me would be a waste of words.

Hi Roger, concerning the monies withdrawn by the Shinawatra's, this is only one guys presumptions and as such is not worth a sausage as real evidence either way

[taurus]

taurus,
Firstly, I am not professor of economics, so let me think what the Shinatwatras could find to spend his/their money on: Private jet, fuel, entourage of cars and security goons, lawyers - lots of them, hotels - only the best penthouse suites, wife and kids shopping expedition in Paris, to Germany, France, Montenegro, investment at better interest, getting money out of Thailand before someone else gets their sticky fingers on it........gees the list has just started and already I have billions over 8 months, so how am I doing? The first thing after the sham court case would have been to get out "the bulk of the cash". Note I said sham. I have never ever heard of any politician being convicted for bad ethics.....mostly they are all rotten to the core; which raises the question, shouldn't they all be charged with bad ethics, convicted and half their money taken before they even take office?
If you would care to read about the qualifications of the people saying these malicious things in Canberra, Australia against the DSI, the current government, CRES, etc here's the web site. If you disagree, then tell them, minus the rhetoric because all they quote is known, published facts, as you will find from the data (published by the Thai government agencies involved) if you would care to watch and listen to the Professors of Asian Studies.

http://asiapacific.anu.edu.au/newmandala/

So Roger, its your fervent belief that in no way the Thaksin's monies was involved to BANKROLL the civil unrest we saw in BKK by the reds and their mouthpiece leaders , the next thing I will read is that Thaksin and TRT was not involved in vote buying on a monumental scale in the North and North East in the GE's Thaksin contested , obviously its your firm belief that the good Doctor is an honorable man , mind you many to this day think of Stalin ,Hitler,and Mao as outstanding human beings in every sense of the word which I find as laughable a thought as that Thaksin is anything but a supreme con man who used the ignorance and Ill educated rural people to feather his nest on an unprecedented scale

[taurus]

taurus,
It really is a pity you cannot read. I would agree with what the Professor said, that perhaps 20 billion baht was involved in the political protests.
I actually carried out an experiment. I wrote out a list of Thai names (fictitious), then next to their names I wrote donations from 100 to 1,000 baht and used 200 baht as the mean. I then read the list for 1 full minute, emulating the man on the red shirt stage and the average was 3,600 baht a minute. So I multiplied that by 60 which gave me 216,000 baht an hour. Then I multiplied that by 16 hours, that's how long the reading went for; which gives 3,456,000 a day just in donations from the red shirt sympathisers, then you have to calculate the number of days the protests went for...... lets say 50, which gives you 17,280,000 and that's only at a mean 3,600 a minute. I actually heard donations far in advance of that.
As far as your stupid statements about my beliefs.......why don't you read what I wrote, not what you thought I wrote. Then go back and read what the Professor said and wrote.... but then you won't because you are never interested in facts, just ranting and raving.
If you wish to make yourself look stupid, that is fine by me, just don't involve me in the prattle, I like facts, something the DSI and CRES don't want people to think about too much, facts, that is.
It's just like the government sending their re-education headmasters (that's what the kids call them) around to all the high schools in Bangkok to tell the students how bad and evil the red shirts were and how nice the government was to them the whole time and that any deaths were just accidents...... the only problem was, the students wanted facts and many asked too hard questions..... as soon as that happened the students were threatened with being expelled..... Bah, Bah and Bah!

Facts?, so far I ain't seen any only presumptions ,and according to you as a man can run 100 metres in 10 seconds therefore he can run the 1500 in 2 minutes 30 seconds, boy that is moving ain/t it , and in closeing I say again are you saying that Thaksin did not fund or partly fund the civil unrest ,a simple question which only requires a simple answer,cos personally I along with Millions of other's think Thaksin is as bent as a corkscrew , whatever your opinion is,of course is entirely your affair

[Voice]

I don't think it's important who donated the money government is in dreamsville yet again about these lists of name. We could ask you the same question also about who donated the money for the yellow shirt. But we will be going around in circle.

Now let say that if we could have new rule for politicains, for an example seize any asset and bank account for safe keeping when anyone want to enter into politic life. So if any have more than they has after enter into politic them they could be guilty for corruption.

[taurus]

taurus,
Well done taurus, you admitted that what the CRES and DSI came up with was just presumptions, because they have no idea where the money that was withdrawn went either. It could have gone to the moon for all we know.
For the last time taurus I didn't like Thaksin one bit, but he was elected by the Thai people, twice. So how's that, does that answer your question that I couldn't find; just presumptions by you.

Hey Roger, they will not know anything until the suspects are interviewed which is just normal legal procedure, no one has been charged with anything as yet ,of course if you are of the opinion that in no way should the suspects be offered a chance to explain the massive money transactions that actually took place by all means say so , as of yet they are only presumptions but in this case they will be interviewed with legal council present as to if there is a charge to answer to or not ,as for Thaksin being democratically elected have you firm evidence that Thaksin did not pay huge sums of money to buy votes in the North and North East of Thailand by way of an independent link if you have one by all means produce it ,this is just part and parcel of Thai politics which has gone on for decades , vote buying and GE's go together here in Thailand like strawberry's and cream, ain't that right my good friend Voice,
and whatever the outcome of the inquiry, many Roger, such as yourself will simply refuse to believe it because of your extreme anti Abhisit bias, http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/crimes/ ... ts-june-28

[taurus]

taurus,
There you go again, telling me how I will think and what I will think.
Suspects? What suspects? The whole thing is speculation and propaganda. The DSI is an investigative body, it should have done the investigating before it published any names, the fact that it hasn't even interviewed the people makes the whole thing a sham.
Taurus, you miss the whole point. Each time I write something I always back it up with evidence or known facts, as I did when I posted the New Mandala link to disprove your far flung suppositions.
Are you now saying that Thaksin was not democratically elected? Or are you implying he paid for the position? If you have proof of either then post it, because I certainly never mentioned that when I answered your first waffle.
Please stop baying at the full moon and please try and stick to what I wrote, not what you wrote!

Roger , In my previous post I requested that you provide an independent link which states that Thaksin and his party TRT was NOT involved in blatant vote buying ,I'M WAITING.

[taurus]

taurus,
I didn't raise that topic taurus, you did. I just said Thaksin was elected by the people, twice.
You can wait all you like, I have no intention of trying to prove something that many government agencies are paid to do and publish openly for the benefit of the public: anti-counter corruption commission,election commission, royal Thai police, the list goes on ad-nausium, rather like you.

OMG Roger why all these personnel insults in every post you write? ,when all I am asking for is solid proof that Thaksin and the TRT members did not get involved in ,shall we say "voteing irregularity's" in his GE's ,also you refuse to provide REAL proof that Thaksin did not fund or partly fund the insurrection in BKK except some guys musings in New Mandala, you call that irrefutable evidence of innocence? come come Roger you will have to come up with something more conclusive ,all I am saying that he and others are suspected of useing funds to sugar the reds and their leaders to commit mayhem ,yet you categorically use some "no names" words as solid proof that the Shinawatra's are somehow "squeaky clean" in the whole affair

[taurus]

Yep It would appear they are really going for the Jugular , personally I think this is somewhat overdue in the interests of "justice", ya know this simple word that has been bandied about so much by the red leaders and swallowed so magnificently by the paid red lackeys , http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/politic ... st-thaksin of course those members who are of the opinion that this is some sort of "witch hunt" against Thailands "Saviour " by all means speak up on his behalf