Thailand's Restive South

Thailand's Restive South

Postby tohwae on Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:21 pm

Southern violence is something that everybody really worries about it . Villagers are shot dead though they are innocent. They have nothing related to southern insurgents. They make a living freely. They don't have any relationship with southern bandits.

Why are they shot dead ?

This problem causes state authorities to cope with the southern violence drastically. Thai offcials have come to the deep south of Thailand to deal with the problems closely.

Southern insurgency is well-known for foreign media too . It is because the deep south of Thailand is a special location which is full of Thai-Malay Muslims. They become a major community in the area. Thai Buddhists there are minority groups.

Because of different cultures and traditions , the areas sometimes can cause the problems between local residents and state officials .

So far , southern unrest in the deep south of Thailand has still occurred continuously. Many people are killed and bombed.

The area becomes a red-zone location declared by the Thai government. However , restive south brings unrest in the areas till now. By Nanthasan Tohwae , Yala


In fact , the Thai authorities have tried to solve the problems regularly. They have sent soldiers to be on duty there. Some soldiers are shot dead while working . It looks like the southern unrest will not end.

What should we do to solve the problems?

Actually, all people must help solve the problems altogether. The problems cannot be solved by few people. To live together happily is our need.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby khunwilko on Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:16 am

firstly it would help if the Thai authorities recognised the problem for what it is - a separatist movement. The region is not traditionally part of Thailand and the Thais are seen by some as "invaders".
successive Thai governments have done nothing to understand the problem and have all resorted to force to "quash" the problem.
a short look around the world will tell them that unless there is a change of attitude and policy on the Thai Govt's part the region will slide more and more into violence.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby surinfarm on Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:06 pm

To understand the troubled south is to truly be attuned to the history of the region.
And then, get by the ever-promoted [and deepened] propaganda that has generally secured the mind set of most circles.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby chimp on Fri Jul 15, 2011 11:31 am

[size=200][/size]Well, there are lot of pretended historical experts here it seemed. They drew their own timelines of their versions of historical events and made claims of ownerships. The facts are that southern Thailand and further down to the island chains in South China Sea and Indian Ocean were are colonied by none native people. These were colonial outposts for the Indian, Chinese, European, Muslim powers...and their decendants are still living there and wish to make it all entirely their owns. But it is more than just regaining old colonial territories, but it is also their ways of getting closer connection with those in their ancestorial lands. The south has wealths including energy sources like oil and gas. As long as the terrorism continuing, there will be no real effort to make energy exploration for the benefit of Thailand. Because the leaders in Thailand government are weak, and Thailand isn't governed by REAL Thais.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby surinfarm on Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:11 pm

chimp wrote:[size=200][/size]Well, there are lot of pretended historical experts here it seemed. They drew their own timelines of their versions of historical events and made claims of ownerships. The facts are that southern Thailand and further down to the island chains in South China Sea and Indian Ocean were are colonied by none native people. These were colonial outposts for the Indian, Chinese, European, Muslim powers...and their decendants are still living there and wish to make it all entirely their owns. But it is more than just regaining old colonial territories, but it is also their ways of getting closer connection with those in their ancestorial lands. The south has wealths including energy sources like oil and gas. As long as the terrorism continuing, there will be no real effort to make energy exploration for the benefit of Thailand. Because the leaders in Thailand government are weak, and Thailand isn't governed by REAL Thais.

Then, one might ask oneself: What is a real Thai?
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby chimp on Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:35 pm

If you are a well versed and educated person, you do know what I meant by REAL Thais. I'm not just talking about just people with Thai citizenship here. Actually, Thai citizenship has no leaning for these pretended Thais since they don't have the real interests of Thailand at their own hearts and minds. Too bad, English language can't express the correct ideas. We can simply think of REAL Thais as indigenous people and indigenous cultures. Or we can simply think of the terrorists as foreign freedom fighters who are fighting for their colonial revival and interests. One example is in the USA, there is now an African-European mixed president with his own agendas. But there have never been an American Indian or an indigenous president person. American Indians are living in reservations and living below the poverty line with high degree of social upheaval.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby surinfarm on Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:50 pm

A well-learned and knowledgeable individual would [in theory] understand better not to attach non-related comparatives towards a specific subject matter, less mixing a Eurocentric spin on Oriental hisoriography.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby chimp on Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:12 am

Well, another wheel spinner here and not a matter of ignorance. When there are no solid education systems in any countries and or no well versed educators to teach the real verse educations, then the population tended to be more ill-informed of the facts and easily manipulated by their rulers. Thailand is one of such fail state with population who are ill-prepared for their careers and in the real world. People tended to follow the mass media, which controlled by the corrupted governments while suppressing the real media freedom. The untruths become truths when repeated enough. There is no Euro-centric about my statements regarding indigenous people. In every continents of this world, indigenous and peaceful people were are being colonized and ruled by their conquerers and invaders...and Thailand is no exception. "Those who controlled the guns always controlled the butter." The recent Thai history shown the real true historical events between political rival groups; the red protesters were arrested, shot, and killed while the yellow protesters and their allies mostly got off free for wrecking Thailand socially, politically, and economically. The south will know no peace without the surgical removal of the cancerous growths.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby Eric on Wed Jul 20, 2011 11:43 am

Khun Tohwae, over 4,000 killed since 2009 is indeed a grim statistic. Here in Bangkok far away from the restive south, we only read the headlines and left feeling that it is all the work of the extremist militants. The facts on the ground may be different. We have the thinking that the south problems are a mix bag of police/army corruptions, drug gang crimes, some romp separatists and even fewer militants who caused the most casualties. Perhaps even some family feuds and jealousies killings. Then there is a idealogy factor and perhaps a funding and training source from Malaysia. Khun Tohwae, as you live in Yala perhaps you can express the mood and thinking of the general residents as regards to the mentioned. Krap.
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Re: Thailand's Restive South

Postby surinfarm on Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:43 pm

chimp wrote:Well, another wheel spinner here and not a matter of ignorance. When there are no solid education systems in any countries and or no well versed educators to teach the real verse educations, then the population tended to be more ill-informed of the facts and easily manipulated by their rulers. Thailand is one of such fail state with population who are ill-prepared for their careers and in the real world. People tended to follow the mass media, which controlled by the corrupted governments while suppressing the real media freedom. The untruths become truths when repeated enough. There is no Euro-centric about my statements regarding indigenous people. In every continents of this world, indigenous and peaceful people were are being colonized and ruled by their conquerers and invaders...and Thailand is no exception. "Those who controlled the guns always controlled the butter." The recent Thai history shown the real true historical events between political rival groups; the red protesters were arrested, shot, and killed while the yellow protesters and their allies mostly got off free for wrecking Thailand socially, politically, and economically. The south will know no peace without the surgical removal of the cancerous growths.

The cancerous growths. That would be the ruling elite, yes?
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