Abhisit: at what price?

[pachangamac042]

You could be right villager, but it is not as simple as you may think. Of course they can make up numbers, but what or who would it help? The government to look good? Hey tourism is back in full numbers but half the hotels had to close down business?

Let us suppose, in the last 10 years, the statistics of international air traveling states that, an average of 20 % of the arrivals were transit travelers. Then suddenly in 2009 there are only 5 % of transit travelers. Do you think that anybody else then the Thai government would believe those tourism figures? Specially, if tour operators for Thailand world wide would have completely other figures then the Thai government?

As I said, massaging figures is possible but not realistic.

[villager]

Minnie i made a post to Mac on this Thread about massaging the tourist figures it\s 3 up from this post at 12 59 i think Mac may have misunderstood , whats your take on it?

[mustang67]

Doesnt the airport collect fees and taxes from the people that are passing thru anyway?

[villager]

Doesnt the airport collect fees and taxes from the people that are passing thru anyway?

Hi Mustang, this not about taxes and airport fees , its about the official statistics on just how many tourists enter Thailand , which at this moment in time is somewhat of an embarrassment to this present administration , thats why a tourist rescue package has been initiated.

[pachangamac042]

To villager,

following some notes from a friend who actually ows a house in Thailand;

Foreigners can own the actual house but not the land. The foreigner and wife should get a valuation of the separate valuations of the house and land. This should be registered at the Land Office acknowledging that the foreigner owns the house. The wife should then lease the land to the foreigner for say 30 years renewable by a further 30 years (Although the ability to extend such leases has been questioned in the courts - a crooked judge might be anti- foreigner and decide unfavorably: there are no legal precedents under Thai law) The lease should be carefully drawn up by a lawyer, requiring it to continue even should the wife die. The wife should also make a will stipulating a Thai heir for the land (plus a small cash "bonus" as an incentive to agree) on condition that the lease of the land continues to be honored in favour of the foreigner. A Thai lawyer could probably build in other provisions to the will to ensure that the lease will continue to be honored.

The foreigner should also consider life insurance on the Thai wife to cover the "incentive payment" and the additional amount required for the retirement visa if this might be a problem later on. The trustee of the wife's will can be the foreigner. A trustee can fart about for years (As you'd expect in Thailand) before any assets (e.g. land) are distributed, getting round the issues in a procrastinating way! He should get a Thai lawyer to check all of the above out and ensure the drafting of documents are effective.

I sent those lines to Just-1 before, so maybe you may have read them already.

[villager]

You could be right villager, but it is not as simple as you may think. Of course they can make up numbers, but what or who would it help? The government to look good? Hey tourism is back in full numbers but half the hotels had to close down business?

Let us suppose, in the last 10 years, the statistics of international air traveling states that, an average of 20 % of the arrivals were transit travelers. Then suddenly in 2009 there are only 5 % of transit travelers. Do you think that anybody else then the Thai government would believe those tourism figures? Specially, if tour operators for Thailand world wide would have completely other figures then the Thai government?

As I said, massaging figures is possible but not realistic.

Mac, as i said before i can only relate to you what the Belgian guy told me, AND ANYWAY "JUST" WHAT HAS HE TO GAIN BY /////?, but do,s it not strike you as somehow a bit odd when this government has tried to throw a lifeline for the tourist trade?, we can only speculate can,t we , but i thought at the time hey something stinks here!, as i wrote before i come from the mean streets of Manchester and have rubbed shoulders with the finest con men and scam merchants in the business, and I smell a con, of course i could well be wrong ,but my "nose" tells me different,LOL.

[Just-1-Voice]

First, thanks to everyone who provided information on property ownership here, and what has to be done to obtain it. I'll definitely check into it, but I doubt it I make any changes for now, as I really don't have a problem with the way things are set up now.

But to get back to the topic of the thread, it seems like every time Abhist opens his mouth his ignorance shows. You would think that a man who wanted to become Prime Minister more than anything else in the world would have at least spent SOME time studying the position so he would have some idea as to how to perform his duties in office, but it’s like he doesn’t have a clue as to what he’s supposed to do.

There are some who, for God only know what reason, have compared him to Obama. There are only three things I see that you can compare about them.

1) Both are males
2) Both are leaders of their countries
3) Both are relatively young and good looking.

Sorry, folks, but the comparisons end there.

ABHIST – Doesn’t have a clue as to what he is supposed to do as P.M.
OBAMA – Has studied history and politics, and knows what the job entails.

ABHIST – Is surrounded by liars, hypocrites and those only interested in filling their own bank accounts. From what I’ve seen, not one person he has appointed to a Cabinet position is the least bit qualified to fill it.
OBAMA – Has surrounded himself with knowledgeable, seasoned politicians, even crossing party lines to try and get the best people he can to fill those positions.

ABHIST – Everything is Sabi Sabi and will be just fine by next week.
OBAMA – Has the guts to tell the American people that it is going to get worse before it get’s better.

ABHIST – No clear cut decisive plans to turning the economy around.
OBAMA – Has them, but also admits that it’s going to take time, and a hell of a lot of work.

ABHIST – Not only doesn’t have any morals, I don’t think he even knows the meaning of the word.
OBAMA – Even when the opportunities presented themselves, he kept a high moral ground when talking about his opponents, whether it was Hilary or McCain.

ABHIST – Makes promises he has no way in the world of keeping or fulfilling.
OBAMA – Has only promised to do his best in every way possible.

It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if Minnie’s comments about the Dons of wanting to take back his diploma held more than just a grain of truth to it, as he’s proving to be an embarrassment to one of the highest ranked universities in the world.

[pachangamac042]

Just-1-Voice, I thought you had such a good looking lady, but now she had an accident and lost some of her looks momentarily, you start saying that Abhi is good looking? Anything you want to tell us here?

Just kidding buddy. Great post, only the good looking part of it may be a matter of taste for most. Minnie? other ladies around here?

[stilljustbrowsing]

People can be educated, but common sense comes from experience. The most intelegent people in the world will appear/are stupid if they have no perception of reallity based on common sense.

[pachangamac042]

You must learn and to be teached sense, stilltalkingcommonsense. Look at people from brainwashed countries like Iran, Afghanistan or even Thailand if you want so, they no make sense at all, do they? Somebody has to tell you what sense is, before you can go out and try to understand common sense.

Common sense comes with real basic education first. Later it is up to you, what yourself think that common sense is.

Is it common, you got the basic message, you no understand anything, well you my be from Barcelona or…