DEADBEAT DADS – JAPANESE STYLE

[Just-1-Voice2]

Every since the media picked up on the story of Keigo Zato and his search for his father, it seems that not a day goes by when more children are coming forth to also ask for help in locating their Japanese fathers.

It would appear that there is some sort of “trend” here where Japanese men come to Thailand, marry a woman, get her pregnant, and then leave without so much as a “Good Bye”, and that once they are gone, forget about the woman and child, or children, they left behind to fend for themselves. That doesn’t say a whole lot for the moral character of Japanese men.

Now, before you think I’m being racist, or picking on the Japanese, I will be the first to admit that this sort of thing occurs on a world wide scale. The difference is that many countries have laws to deal with this issue. In the U.S. if a man abandons his wife and child (or girlfriend & child), he runs the risk of being nailed for child support, with the possibility of going to jail if he fails to provide it. I personally know a few men who actually suffered those consequences when they failed to accept their financial responsibility to the woman and child. What makes it even worse is that even once they are released from jail, they now owe even more money, and their wages are garnished to make sure they pay it. Don’t have a job? Hey, no problem, we’ll throw you back in jail for another 6 months or year to give you some more time to think about it.

But in getting back to Thailand, with the rash of children coming forward, it would seem that Thailand and Japan would find a way to work together to force these men to accept their responsibility. If not in a physical sense of actually being there for the child, then at least in a monetary sense where they have a moral, and legal obligation to help support the child or children they brought into this world.

In the meantime I would offer a bit of advice to Thai women – Don’t get involved with a Japanese man. I realize that is painting all Japanese men with the same brush, but until they can prove themselves as responsible husbands and parents, then my advice stands.

[Just-1-Voice2]

No, that is not what I'm saying. There's no hidden innuendo here. I stated exactly what I meant. While I don't doubt in the least that there are men of other nationalities who have done the same thing, the focus is definitely on the men from Japan. So, until things change, if I were a Thai woman I would have some serious second thoughts about becoming involved with one. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Ian]

Is there some kind of system in Thailand where Thai fathers have to support their children when separated or divorced? I’m not really sure myself, but I’ve never heard of it if there is one.

Regarding Japanese fathers: If there is no Thai system as above, the Thai government could hardly ask Japanese men to continue supporting their offspring if Thai authorities don’t demand it of their own nationals. And while there may be a number of cases of Japanese men abandoning their families in Thailand, I’m sure there are a greater number of Thai men who have done the same. It also complicates the issue if the father is living in another country.

Many working girls say they like Japanese men, they have large wallets, small dicks, and easily get stupid drunk. I know several Thai women with Japanese husbands that visit them for just a few weeks each year. The Jap supports the woman (and unknown to him her gik) and everyone seems happy. Mind you none of these women were foolish enough to have kids.

Noaksy, there is no system of maintenance in Thailand, this is supposed to be covered by the SinSod. Most foreigners that i know have paid SinSod in some form or the other, if nothing else with a house in the wife's name.

[Just-1-Voice2]

"There's no hidden innuendo here."

I didn't think so.

So the point of the post is that you wouldn't marry a Japanese man, and you think other women shouldn't either until the Japanese men prove their worth?

What would the Japanese men have to do, in order for you to consider marrying one of them?

How about the "dowry" system that is still in place today? ฿100,000 for the "privilege" of marrying a Thai woman. If he balks at that, walk away. I would also suggest a "prenuptial agreement" (if they are legal in Thailand), stating that should the marriage end, he's financially responsible for the children. True, they could still divorce and he head back to Japan (or whichever country he is from), but then the woman takes the agreement to his Embassy or Consulate and raises he.ll until the authorities act on it.

And yes, there are a number of Thai men who are just as guilty, if not more so, and that also needs to be addressed. Unfortunately for the women of Thailand, this is still a Male dominated society where women are far too often treated as property or second class citizens.

But I like what the women of one African nation did a while back. I forget what the issue was, but the women basically went on a "Sex Strike" until the men capitulated to whatever it was they were demanding. This was a nation wide incident where women closed their legs and refused the men sex until they got what they wanted.

Look, we all know this isn't a problem just with men from Japan, but other countries as well, and also the men from Thailand. What I'm saying is that the "squeaky wheel get's the oil", and right now the men from Japan are the squeaky wheel. Perhaps if an issue is made of it, and it's loud enough, then it will also spur some actions for the government to do something here about the Thai Deadbeat Dads as well. And that would be a good thing.

[sai]

To Japanese father.Before you spend so much money for suport this child spend little money for DNA test

[Just-1-Voice2]

Of all the stories I've read about this so far, the one that touched me the most was of a 10 yr old boy here in Chiang Mai who wanted help finding his Japanese father. No different from the others. But the catch is that because his mother is Shan, the boy is "stateless". He's not Thai, he has no rights, he can't even go to school because he can't produce anything to show he's a Thai citizen. Sorry, but to me that totally s.u.c.k.s!

[Ian]

To Japanese father.Before you spend so much money for suport this child spend little money for DNA test

A very sensible suggestion

Just-1-Voice2 SinSod IS the Thai dowry system, or in Arabic countries the "bride price". As to prenuptial agreements this is a civil agreement and its strength would depend upon whether both countries agreed to honour such agreements. They rarely do. I know there is no such cooperation between Britain and Thailand (only in certain criminal cases), a Farang in Thailand needs to make identical wills in both countries for them to be effective.

In the case of the half shan kid, this is a different category yet again. If he is awarded Japanese citizenship he becomes a farang, and at his age no chance of a work or retirement visa, so he gets deported? If mum becomes Jap by marriage they both get deported?

[Ian]

As J1V1 says, it's not just the Japanese, but there are whole lot of other men of different nationalities, Thai included, who leave their women and children behind.

Now, could this be because Thai women are such a drag?

I don't know, I'm not saying they are, but I'm just trying to approach the issue from a different angle.

Could it be that the (undesirable) characteristics of Thai women are driving men (of all nationalities) away?

I think it is an age and culture thing. Take an attractive young Thai woman, give her easy access to food (i.e money not a problem), no work (i.e a maid etc) and within 15 years she is a fat middle aged woman. Having kids makes the transition faster.
Actually I think this is universal, just more noticeable with Thais as they start of looking drop dead gorgeous, so their decay is more noticeable.

[Ian]

Ian : Yes, but surely the 'look' is not the only thing a woman has to offer... some women, as they grow older, they become less 'sexy' but more 'beautiful'.

Even some Thai women are like that (like my wife ^_^) ... but I'm sorry to say, in my experience and observation, MOST Thai women are NOT like that...

(I think) A person, (man or woman) has many beautiful traits... body and face are just a small portion of the person.

If I can say "mature" rather than "age", many Thai women mature in their bodies but not in their minds. It can be irritating being married to a 40 year old child