Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby Voice on Wed May 26, 2010 2:47 am

What we have been arguing here is about justice of injustice. When two brothers did something wrong one left with heavy punishment and another let to go free, so one would feel injustice there. When children learn bad lesson from their parents all they will get is anarchy & rebel and people would blame the parent for bad parenthood. Why did society want to stop parents smacking their children because they believe that physical violence doesn’t work. Violence only brings down destructions and not peace as we all have seen in street of Bangkok.

And yet some of you have shown us here that you encouraging bad parenthood to our society. When people felt injustice it only one thing left to do is protesting. If they can’t find justice today I’m sure they will be back tomorrow. If Abhisit want to lead us like good parents then he must not and should not show us the injustice.
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby vincent on Wed May 26, 2010 2:05 pm

I wonder if Voice knows the meaning of the words "parents" and "justice". You should have learned how to rule your mind then you would (may be) understand how to rule yourself, your family (if you ever have one), community and nation.

Try to find the perfect place on earth and if you could find one as good as or as bas as Thaïland, then let us know.

The parents know their chiçldren better than anyone else, so when there are broblems they know better than their neighbours what solution they should bring out to improve the situations in their family. The interfering of the neighbours can only worsen the situation. We, western nations are often blind and deaf. We have never learned form the errors of our past. We always want to impose our thought to the world. Tha's the wrong doing.

So Mr Aphisit is certainely not a perfect parents but let him try to make his children make peace. Besides, he did not judge his children but did try to make them understand that the parents love and wish them their best as compare to their neighbours. He tries to make them see what is right and what is wrong for the family (according to universal cencept). Mr Aphisit is trying to make the recociliation between his children, he is not judging them. The ones he judges are his malevolence or ill will neighbours who want to dismantle the unity of his family. To this extent, he is a good father. He shows his love and care about his children. He is a good ruler.

I would want to hear you talk about Mr.X premier of Thaïland. I wonder if Mr X preminister of Thailand were the one of the Western Nations, what would the Western nations' justice would react towards his acts.

To my great dismay to see you in such a dismay.
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby alex1 on Wed May 26, 2010 2:05 pm

Voice wrote:What we have been arguing here is about justice of injustice. When two brothers did something wrong one left with heavy punishment and another let to go free, so one would feel injustice there. When children learn bad lesson from their parents all they will get is anarchy & rebel and people would blame the parent for bad parenthood. Why did society want to stop parents smacking their children because they believe that physical violence doesn’t work. Violence only brings down destructions and not peace as we all have seen in street of Bangkok.

And yet some of you have shown us here that you encouraging bad parenthood to our society. When people felt injustice it only one thing left to do is protesting. If they can’t find justice today I’m sure they will be back tomorrow. If Abhisit want to lead us like good parents then he must not and should not show us the injustice.


The first moment one needs to agree your thoughts, but looking deeper into that matter, the outcome might be spared.
Youve got two kids, the one likes to get an apple of his friend, he askes for but doesn't get it. So he finally stole that apple.
The other kid wants to have that apple too. He ask for this apple but says if you don't give it to me I will harm you. Should
the punishment be the same :?:
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby Voice on Thu May 27, 2010 1:18 am

Vincent wrote

I wonder if Voice knows the meaning of the words "parents" and "justice". You should have learned how to rule your mind then you would (may be) understand how to rule yourself, your family (if you ever have one), community and nation.


Yes sure I know what the word parent means I have three children and two grand children.
Yes sure I also know what the word justice means I am working within the system and the law is my business.
Yes sir, I have been working under rule and with the rules all my life, how about you?
.
Try to find the perfect place on earth and if you could find one as good as or as bas as Thaïland, then let us know.

Yes plenty Vincent and that something I won’t tell about. If it wasn’t because of our beautiful woman and cheap beers and foods trade for your currency and all others advantage you get while you here you won’t be here Vincent.



The parents know their chiçldren better than anyone else, so when there are broblems they know better than their neighbours what solution they should bring out to improve the situations in their family. The interfering of the neighbours can only worsen the situation. We, western nations are often blind and deaf. We have never learned form the errors of our past. We always want to impose our thought to the world. Tha's the wrong doing.


Yes parent should know their children better and parent can be wrong too. If two children haven’t been treated the same then there won’t be balance. It would bias decision in one children opinion won’t you say Vincent! You are right there Vincent neighbours and outsider should not interfere with what another family business. But if you feel injustice and find that the parent next door has been abusing their children I am sure you will making a complain to right authority. Yet you haven’t been good neighbour have you! Why because you allow what happen next door to continue. Isn’t sad Vincent that you are what you are and that is why you are here and not overthere.

So Mr Aphisit is certainely not a perfect parents but let him try to make his children make peace. Besides, he did not judge his children but did try to make them understand that the parents love and wish them their best as compare to their neighbours. He tries to make them see what is right and what is wrong for the family (according to universal cencept). Mr Aphisit is trying to make the recociliation between his children, he is not judging them. The ones he judges are his malevolence or ill will neighbours who want to dismantle the unity of his family. To this extent, he is a good father. He shows his love and care about his children. He is a good ruler.


Yes sure no one knows what good parenthood is and no one knows what perfect parent is too. Yes, we can all make mistake! But one mistake from parent made could engrave in the children minds. And if you still not realise your mistake then you could face the devil himself. And you should know if you ever have any children that you cannot always compromise with children if they wanted the same thing. It would be very hypercritical of you to tell me if you yourself is bias by your comment.

I would want to hear you talk about Mr.X premier of Thaïland. I wonder if Mr X preminister of Thailand were the one of the Western Nations, what would the Western nations' justice would react towards his acts.


What did he act Vincent? In same situation you would have act the same Vincent it call survival!

To my great dismay to see you in such a dismay.


I also dismay by you reply Mr. Vincent
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby Voice on Thu May 27, 2010 1:31 am

alex1 wrote “The first moment one needs to agree your thoughts, but looking deeper into that matter, the outcome might be spared.
Youve got two kids, the one likes to get an apple of his friend, he askes for but doesn't get it. So he finally stole that apple.
The other kid wants to have that apple too. He ask for this apple but says if you don't give it to me I will harm you. Should
the punishment be the same


Hi alex1, you have to understand the meaning of what I’ve written by use parent children as an example. Nothing is ever fair for a children you should know that if you have more then one. In comparison Government is just like our parent. I am also sure that if you did something wrong your children would be the first one to tell you. If you don’t do what preach how can you expect the children to respect you.
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby Absara on Thu May 27, 2010 2:37 am

Voice wrote:
Vincent wrote



... To my great dismay to see you in such a dismay.


... I also dismay by you reply Mr. Vincent


Hi Voice – I don't understand why someone would get dismayed by your post. Is it because you speak the truth? I suppose some people can't handle the truth. :cheers:
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby Voice on Thu May 27, 2010 3:54 am

Yes Absara If we denying ourselves the truth we will be in denials through our life. The truth will prevail itself & on one can deny the truth and the justice will be done to those who have broken the law of mankind or in God. If Thaksin is guilty the punishment would prevailing on him too that goes the way with Abhisit and his government policy that he has pass on to those soldiers to shot & kills unarm person without any justification. If Abhisit want to show us & the world that he wants peace then he should keep his words and give people a chance to make their own choice. Give new date for election I may say! If he is confident about what he did was right then people would give a chance to prove himself again after he been elect as new PM of Thailand with full consent of the people. But Justice must be done without prejudice.
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby jeffrey on Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:20 pm

Voice wrote:What we have been arguing here is about justice of injustice. When two brothers did something wrong one left with heavy punishment and another let to go free, so one would feel injustice there. When children learn bad lesson from their parents all they will get is anarchy & rebel and people would blame the parent for bad parenthood. Why did society want to stop parents smacking their children because they believe that physical violence doesn’t work. Violence only brings down destructions and not peace as we all have seen in street of Bangkok.

And yet some of you have shown us here that you encouraging bad parenthood to our society. When people felt injustice it only one thing left to do is protesting. If they can’t find justice today I’m sure they will be back tomorrow. If Abhisit want to lead us like good parents then he must not and should not show us the injustice.

An odd set of twisted metaphores. Government should never be looked upon with familial connections.
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby Voice on Wed Jun 02, 2010 4:53 am

Jeffery wrote "

Jeffery wrote “Voice wrote:What we have been arguing here is about justice of injustice. When two brothers did something wrong one left with heavy punishment and another let to go free, so one would feel injustice there. When children learn bad lesson from their parents all they will get is anarchy & rebel and people would blame the parent for bad parenthood. Why did society want to stop parents smacking their children because they believe that physical violence doesn’t work. Violence only brings down destructions and not peace as we all have seen in street of Bangkok.

And yet some of you have shown us here that you encouraging bad parenthood to our society. When people felt injustice it only one thing left to do is protesting. If they can’t find justice today I’m sure they will be back tomorrow. If Abhisit want to lead us like good parents then he must not and should not show us the injustice.


An odd set of twisted metaphors. Government should never be looked upon with familial connections.



Why not Jeffery?
What do we expect from our leaders?
What do we expect from our parent?
Apart from being a parent aren’t they’re a leader?
Aren’t parents governing the children by rules & order?
Aren’t children expecting to be treated fairly by their parent?
What do you call parent that have mistreated their children?
What do you do with bad parent?
If the parent keeps taking side on one more than another what do you think you will get?

So if you know how to treats your children fairly (equal justice) they will love you for it.
If you don’t treats them fairly then it would unequal justice (injustice) then sure you will get all the headache from them and they will continue to remind you about the injustice they received from you. Until you change your policy you won’t have peace.

We all need equal justice don’t you agree? Jeffery!
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Re: Can Abhisit government show us good parenthood?

Postby jeffrey on Wed Jun 02, 2010 8:38 pm

Voice wrote:
Jeffery wrote "

Jeffery wrote “Voice wrote:What we have been arguing here is about justice of injustice. When two brothers did something wrong one left with heavy punishment and another let to go free, so one would feel injustice there. When children learn bad lesson from their parents all they will get is anarchy & rebel and people would blame the parent for bad parenthood. Why did society want to stop parents smacking their children because they believe that physical violence doesn’t work. Violence only brings down destructions and not peace as we all have seen in street of Bangkok.

And yet some of you have shown us here that you encouraging bad parenthood to our society. When people felt injustice it only one thing left to do is protesting. If they can’t find justice today I’m sure they will be back tomorrow. If Abhisit want to lead us like good parents then he must not and should not show us the injustice.


An odd set of twisted metaphors. Government should never be looked upon with familial connections.



Why not Jeffery?
What do we expect from our leaders?
What do we expect from our parent?
Apart from being a parent aren’t they’re a leader?
Aren’t parents governing the children by rules & order?
Aren’t children expecting to be treated fairly by their parent?
What do you call parent that have mistreated their children?
What do you do with bad parent?
If the parent keeps taking side on one more than another what do you think you will get?

So if you know how to treats your children fairly (equal justice) they will love you for it.
If you don’t treats them fairly then it would unequal justice (injustice) then sure you will get all the headache from them and they will continue to remind you about the injustice they received from you. Until you change your policy you won’t have peace.

We all need equal justice don’t you agree? Jeffery!

You do have a way of consistently promoting your {unrealistic} utopian dream as such applies to most every aspect of our existences. There is a better chance that some don't buy your play. In a perfect world....
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