Preah Vihea issues

Preah Vihea issues

Postby a-khmer on Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:06 pm

Dear all Thai,
I am a khmer and I am very sad of loses on the both countries which is Thailand is part of trying to invading on Cambodia to get control on our anscientic Preah Vihea Temple the 11th century on top of mountain. Why Thai government want to take over it? The fight over Preah Vihea Temple was over almost a hundred year ago by juridical of UN-Court and that Juridical is sited clearly that Preah Vihea is in Cambodia's territory. I heard some Thai said: the juridical was sited only that the temple is on Cambodia's teritory but the the land surrounded was Thai's......... Would that be possible for a judment like this? It is not reasonable. For example you (Mr. A) have trouble with your neighbor (Mr. B) on plot of land which your built a house and your neighbor accuse that you built the house on Mr. B's land, thus you both going to the court and would the judment say "Mr. A you built the house on Mr. B's land so Mr. A remain the house on Mr.B's land and Mr. A has no right to manage anything on the plot land and find yourself the way to enter and exit the house avoiding the use of Mr. B's land as your enter and exit way". Like that? Wake up, don't play with fire........ we both loses enough war kills people, damages eco, trade and many thing. Don't you see our both people fleeing their residents for safety area? Stop pointing at each other, it's nothing for fighting for, Preah Vihea is Cambodia property and it is over long ago. Dear my Thai, just walk away from PAD and stop listening to Abisit or SanSern or Prawit or Kasit they just doing for benefit of politic. They don't love Thai, They just do everything for their team. We are sad 1 of our soldier death in the fight, we don't want to see it anymore but it doesn't mean we afraid of war, our soldier though enough to kill our enemies and we must kill all our enemies. Lookup the world, it's 2011 now country can not invading other by forces with a fake. We sad of of losing one of our soldier who were killed on the 6th Feb 11, battle but lucky my prime minister's wife kindly donate his family 10.000 USD we respectful to our prime minister and 90% of Cambodians considered him a HERO. Please peace be up on you. Stop fighting.
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby a-khmer on Tue Feb 08, 2011 6:42 pm

I can't believe my eyes when I saw Wat Keo Sekha Kiri Svarah sited near the Preah Vihea Temple on Cambodia National TV was destructed by Thai soldiers and altileries :( even statues of pagodhas were damaged.

Don't you guys remember the act of Afghanistan which was ruled by Mr. Mohamed Oma and Mr. Osama Bin La Din? They bombed on a huge pagodha statue on the wall of mountain. Then Mohamed Oma and Osama Bin La Din were ousted the country and killed and their country turned in Chaos until now.

Why Thai government and its militaries decided to act as terrerists in Afghanistan? Don't you believe your country would become the second Afghanistan?
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby susiQ on Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:28 am

I agree. All I see is politics and powers. People live in that area have to suffer not to mention other people have to risk their life in that fight. I also see that the history of mankind on this earth is being destroyed bit by bit here and there.. like in Egypt. For the next and next..generation, there will be nothing left but piles and piles of ruins. That is sad!!
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby arnab on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:50 am

Surprisingly an army from a buddhist country as Thailand was capable of shooting on a buddhist pagoda even though it's situated on the other side of border. What will be the Buddha say? It commonly known that usually this kind of site is sacred and no one dares attaking it even if it belongs to oneself's worse ennemi.
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby clinton on Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:26 am

Very sad to watch in tv news that this sacred world heritage temple being damaged by Thai's military retaliation. Very shock to read from the news that Abhisit is deploying more tanks at the border hoping to solve the heritage sovereignty dispute instead of the UN intervention. Very surprised to see Thai people tolerating their incompetent prime minister still sitting in his office today.
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby thaigirl on Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:29 am

If you guys know landscape about the disputed area i think it's hardly to avoid in case cambodia soldiers are there just the same why cambodia soldiers bomb at thai people houses and farms, schools etc so i think it's normal that thai troop had to bomb back.. and not a few had to leave home because of fighting ..the truth is really a lot now...cambodia just have temple there and no people but in thailand lots of people live and never thought that cambodia will bomb at where people live...

i don't say it because i read from news or from TV i say it from the truth because i am live here ...now everything seem quiet but nobody knows when will happen again
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby a-khmer on Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:21 pm

To Thaigirl, I understand that the war is always like and I am agree. As I think, Cambodia is a small country and poor doesn't have enogh capacity to start fighting into Thai soil. But the rich is. We have villages on the hill of Preah Vihea and our Cambodian villagers suffered by your Thai boombing. Three or Four our villages destroyed, a villagers death and our Wat is vanished, our Preah Vihea Temple suffered damage by your 105, 120, 150 and 155 attilery boombing attacked. Thai always the first who start firing at us and if the cease fire is made last few days ago but last night Thai fired a attilery boomb onto Cambodia soil. This is the real news. But Cambodia remain calm since the boomb was dropped on the false side and we don't want the war. Abisit a war evilwho spend his soldiers' and his people lives for keeping his prime minister possition safe, the souls our Cambodian anscient temple will punish him and his family a hurtfull the rest of lives. Thank you Thaigirl for sharing idea together as neighbor.
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby matteo1 on Wed Feb 09, 2011 2:28 pm

Kasith can keep calling it "bilateral talks" if it helps Thailand not to lose face! "Bilateral talks" encouraged by ASEAN, discussed at UN, monitored by third party...etc. What Thailand does not want is third party and/or international community to be on the ground to confirm with modern means that the French - SIAM map, used by the ICJ when it recognized sovereignty of Cambodia over Preah Vihear temple, show the so-called "disputed area" inside Cambodia territory. In fact Thailand does not really care about the small bushy and rocky area surrounding the temple or the co-management of Preah Vihear, but recognizing Cambodian sovereignty over that area implies accepting the French-Siam map instead of the new unilateral draw by Thailand in the 70s. This means that some 27,000 sq/km including some maritime resource-rich areas and even areas along Thai-Lao (which ignited similar border clashes few decades ago) will be put in the equation! It would be better for Thailand to keep ambiguity over the areas, use it military and economical strength to sustain prolonged stand-off and weaken Cambodia in order to "bilaterally" re-negotiates from a position of force in blatant disregard of international laws. Of course a third party would not be welcome to jeopardize this endeavor by Thailand…
Thailand and Cambodia should be living in peace with clearly defined border. Innocent people are suffering on both sides of the border and are hold hostage by government internal politics. Thai and Cambodian ordinary people do not hate each other but irresponsable policies by the two goverments will ignate ill-feelings among the population and could spiral it out of control with long lasting consequences! Military on both sides must be held accountable for targeting civilians but this is another issue which resulted from the stand off and the war mongering politicians...
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby a-khmer on Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:45 pm

Matteo1, Yes you are right, Thai government afraid of losing face to the world and they are trying to hide the world from knowing of their invassion on Cambodia. As I said, Abisit playing his politics using military and his people lives with guns and attileries. Thai people should not follow Abisit and the PAD and find new vice leader to resolve your country's trouble and neighbors. Matteo1 thank you.
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Re: Preah Vihea

Postby thaigirl on Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:25 pm

To you guys ...we thai know we really have politics problem here, but in the same time I also think it's also something in cambodia too...you read news from your country of course they said thai start first and here we know as cambodia start first..so we don't know the truth

but to be honest last sunday it was really busy night here if thai start bomb first impossible that they will let people back to the villages like that...many had accident while run away from bomb...but i can understand that because i live far from border more than them i can feel it.....and don't want it happen again
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