" Ways and means of entry into U.K. for Thai nationals" explains my situation with just as much response and support as you see here. My Thai wife is still in Thailand, she's a university graduate in business and I have the support of my MP and enquiriesmade on my behalf by David Treisman, The Lord Treisman of Tottenham. Even a Lord cannot swing it for me. I cannot get an interview with David Fall, the Ambassador in Bangkok, even though it is my right. By god I want to complain! What I would like to know is, is anyone of any worth reading this, anyone who can make a difference, anyone with some sort of power to make change? If not, we are all lost causes and things will continue as they are. As for the BangkokEmbassy staff, they are all very rude, over officious, faceless beaurocrats who really don't give a damn about you or I, let alone some foreign spouse or partner. They are omnipotent in respect of who they grant a visa to. An appeal, I hear you cry! After six months Bangkok have finally released our application papers to the U.K. so we can now expect an appeal date for some one or two years hence, (due to the backlog of asylum seekers I am reliably informed). When the civil uprising begins, someone give me a shout beacuase I hold this country in the lowest of esteems...
Good Luck all!
Why not all get together, outside the Tribunal (88 Rosebery Ave., London. EC1) and hold against your chests a picture of your spouse/partner. A bit of news coverage goes a long way to highlight this sort of injustice. As a 'founding' member of Fathers 4 Justice, I know this sort of campaign works - it just depends how eager you all are to make it work. Maybe apathy will rule as usual! I'll be there on the 16th January 2006 at 10am. Maybe see some of you there...?
Richard, while I am not as insecure as you to go to great lengths to convince readers how educated my partner and I are and that I did not marry a sex industry worker, I can confirm I am in a similar situation.
The British Embassy treated my wife and I with such contempt it was unbelievable. We supplied ALL documents requested by the embassy and even had them verified by managers at a well known Thai bank.
The staff who dealt with us were rude and cynical beyond belief. As just one example, the staff took a letter that our condo owner had been kind enough to write, looked up at us and said "you know we get a lot of fakes like this".
There is NO excuse for treating people like this.
So it is not just a case of you being so much better than other applicants, it would appear you got lucky. The staff seem to be very rude to a wide range of applicants.
Besides, even in cases where the applicants are a young Thai woman and an older "farang", as long as the marriage is legal and documents can be surprised it is not the right or responsibility or even the business of the staff to judge their application on that.
Their sole duty and power is to make a decision based on criteria specified by the British Foreign Office.
If staff cannot do that objectively, they should not be employed.
I do believe - if my memory serves me well - that Mr. Taylor was also the individual I complained about. I received a reply from his line manager (drinking partner?) that contained classic lines as "sometimes our staff are busy and do not have time to exchange courtesies".
That was their response to my complaint (one of many) that he did not make eye contact with us during our application.
The letter also had the line " we have had no other complaints against him". Hmmmm.......
I'm a Thai woman wanting to share my bad experience with the ECO in Bangkok just yesterday (22Feb)....I'm working in BKK as a tour guide, my boyfriend is English and we are in same age (31) been together for 2 years. I joined him in England ,after he had to return home, with a visitor visa in 2004 then again in 2005...I had no problem in granting this visa as I have travelled to EU and US before.
Anyways, this time is different, we decided to try to live in England together so that I applied for a Settlement Visa as the unmarried partner which have been together for 2 years.
I came to the visa section yesterday 1 pm and was called for a short interview at 4.15 pm. ...I came in the interview room seeing a British lady and a Thai gentleman.....he asked what language I prefer to use I said either Thai or English, he suggested that Thai should be most clear, and I agreed with him............she started the question.... with his translation....I answered in Thai.....when it came to the question what is my boyfriend doing ...I told them the name of company he is working for which is in England.....she asked if he's in England how could you live together?........I answered in Thai that The first year he was in Thailand doing his own business on bra-bra-bra...but ...I stopped for him to translate and he did translated what I said......She stopped typing and said ' then where is his company's documents?' openning my folder very fast and said out loud ' YOU'RE CONFUSING ME, I DONT HAVE ALL DAY FOR THIS !' in the same time throwing my folder on the desk/counter quite hardly....then turned to the Thai gentleman ' I asked WHAT IS HE DOING? it is very clear, WHAT IS HE DO-ING?' with an angry voice.
I was shocked by her act which I've never expected to see. I was so scared instead of walking out from the room ...I apologised as if it's my fault......she said that I have to come back again for a full interview not just a short interview coz my case is more complicated and she told me to come back on March,6th.......I came home with disappointment in UK officer the way she treats the applicant......I've made a complaint to ECO Manager today with no expectation to receive any reply but at least I've done what I wanted to.
I'm not sure if I want to come back to the UK embassy ever again.....I applied for this visa because of my boyfriend.......I dont care if they would refuse my visa coz I have a good life here in BKK and I have lots of beautiful beaches to enjoy and my boyfriend dont want to be in England anyway. ...I am just sad with the way they treat Thai people.
If she had just slowly read my document, she would have found what she was looking for.
If she had just listenned carefully, she wouldn't have broken someone's heart.
If she had just been a little bit more patient,everything around her would have been more beautiful.
Outrageous experience, wasn't it ?
This is one show of the superiority complex towards all Thais that you've to face at all times if you think to move to Europe.
But My advice in such places to be brief and direct and very articulate. Those embassies officials are itchy people and they enjoy being so rude and insulence, especially to non-westerners.
If you want your plans to go unchanged, go again as requested for a long interview and be well prepared in advance.
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