2. The money dowery/bride price is not given to the parent of the bride until after the ceremony where the heads of each family will make announcement. No one would carry cash of 500,000 baht and cashier check is now used with enlarge version to show to the guests.
3. You can ask for refund if she does not follow through with the promises, and you cancel your check with your bank. Thai bank usually hold the check for up to 1 month before allowing it to be released.
She is degree educated and has traveled all over the world. Not previously married. Definitely no children
Recently I went to the brothers wedding. He paid a million baht worth of gold, a million baht worth of diamond sets. (Rings, necklaces earrings etc) diamond studded Rolex. Other gifts. And a large sum of cash. 700+ guests (oddly including many senior police) at one of the best hotels in Bangkok.
They are by any standards a wealthy family.
One thing that hasn’t been mentioned in this discussion is that wealthy families give back the Dowry. They did with my fiancés big sister. Even though he is from a wealthy family as well. They are not as rich as these lot.
It’s all about face.
To be seen to not need the dowry gains face.
Although somewhat insulting.
Firstly one must present at least a million baht. Then your family is not perceived as being wealthy enough so it’s given back. Funny old system.
To the guy who’s been quoted 2 million. Unless she’s Royal in which case they would not be introducing a foreigner to the family. So you can cancel that one out. The only reason would be if she belonged to senior of the main 3 Police, Army, government (criminal organizations that run Thailand) it which case the dowry likely given back.
Figures are difficult but if the family is not clearly “Hi So” High Society 500,000 baht would be good place to “Cap" Thai dowry’s. Also find out what family and friends paid of equal status. 40,000 seems to be about normal in most case that i've asked.
440,000 is another price that’s kicked around. Think its to do with the price of gold that is in some cases matched.
Personally I’m thinking about a million baht but in my case the mother has already decided “which” house to give us.
Hope I’ve got it right ;-)
shes beautiful girl
I suggested putting the money in a bank account in her name to be used for medecine etc.
To be honest any Thai women I have met seems very concentrated on money.These women discuss the ammounts of money they get from farangs like a pastime.
My feet are firmly on the ground .(I think)
I wonder if the loss to Thai chicks is worth it - leaving warm Thailand where you know the score, as life in some countries must surely seem grim by comparison...
Dude if you are being asked for money then question why. Tell the family mafia that it's not the done thing where you are from and so what compromise can be reached. If they still insist ask the lady in question if she really wants to leave her culture and society, if not and they are holding out for cash, make the call - pay up or leave. If you feel as though her family are taking the piss then walk away. Be string and trust your gut instincts.
Where does the love of money come from? I know it's universal and not uniquely Thai but it seems to be an all too common experience for foreigners who want to marry Thai chicks.
Is is the fact that life in Thailand is tough? That money brings status? That women struggle to find well-paid jobs with no welfare system to fall back on?
Is this not all a continuation of the whole 'women as objects' gig. By asking for a dowry they are, in effect, being sold by their families.
This is the opposite to Indian culture where you pay to marry your daughter into a good family.
Good grief, where are the sane Thai chicks who want to marry for love. They must be out there as Thai culture is typically asian - romantic and gooey to the point of nausea when it suits.
I hereby translate a Thai laws about dowry and marriage laws for your discretive understandings.
Acts of Civil and Commerce (Pramuan Gotmai Paeng lae Panit revised 2547)
Chapter 5 : Family
Subchapter 1 : Marriage
Clause 1 : Engagement for marriage
Article 1435 : 17 years old boy or girl can marry in consent of each parents (in brief).
Article 1437 : Sin Sot is the property that man's party endow to the parents of girl's party for purpose to the girl's party acceptance of the marriage. In case any cause occur that the marriage is not taken place due to the mistake on the girl's party, the sin sot can be claimed back by the man's party,
in legal marriage in Thailand, the sin sot is due process for formal engagement and marriage.
Sin sot delivery must be done openly with witnesses which will nail down the girl's parents, who thesedays some people though, take chance to get their daughter re-married with high paying farang bridegrooms as the present common-law farang or local husbands did dowry in unclear manner such as helping a younger sister to continue college or help the parents build more bedrooms or buy them households TV laundry machine etc. This kind of endowment is not regarded Sin Sot or at least ignored by bad parents as they say "they are gifts or charity to them because the farang men always look down to them as the poor people".
Do not avoid Sin Sot giving, give even 5000 baht in presence of village headman and take photo of such evedential material.
This will concrete your marriage.
Otherwise Thai court always favor Thai people and rule your marriage is MOKA (nullifying marriage).
However the best bondage is how strong your bride is bound to you. Girl is girl. If they feel they are loved tightly and securely by you, they do not leave you. They reject their parents and try to raise new family, you and your children. This is the real humane face and what all of us pursue.
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