I have both read much and discussed much the question of a westerner marrying a Thai national. It is at the least a little bit confusing. Thais themselves do not really understand the rules and laws and hold wildly varying opinions as to what applies to whom. I am American, and while Thai government curries aid and funding of it's endeavours by the American government for its own advancement, yet when I am to come there to aid and support 100% one of it's citizens in marriage I am, and always will be, considered a second class citizen at least and possibly selected because of my origins for persecutions that could be viewed as racist at worst? I just love my Thai lady. I place no conditions on that love. I really do not care about land ownership and property. I have all faith in her extensive extended family, and I trust all parties involved. My only reason to accquire property anyway would be to have something to leave to her in the event of my death, so as a matter of course I would intend for her to have everything in her name anyway. There is no doubt but that Thais to some degree have on blinders as to the manipulations by the ruling class, there is a very distinct line between the haves and the have nots, and Thais, traditionally accept this as being normal. I consider the opposing voices of the westerners as a bit of whining in some cases. Recently an American was sentenanced to prison for what some Americans saw as a "freedom of speech violation" they somehow mistakenly consider freedom of speech as something Internationally accepted...it is not! It is a high crime to insult or defame or speek badly or rudely about the //////. This is Thai law. "When in Rome, do as the Romans do." Had a Thai national done this crime against the //////, Thai law would dictate similar punishment...would such punishment have been handed in the same amount and fashion then? who can say? It is a law, and a farang, such as myself, should be aware of his much different surroundings, such as much different laws and practices. I agree many Thai laws about Farangs are not fair, but as a person wishing to expatriate, or more literally practically defect to Thailand, based on the socialism taking over the republic of America, I am to see, understand, and accept what I am getting myself into. Thai culture is very different form American culture, and one must accept the laws and traditions of the country they are immigrating to. I do not have to like it or agree with it, I just have to do it or go somewhere else to live. Me? I love my wife enough to endure whatever I must as a farang in Thailand, I will come if the Thai Government will allow it. I am to suffer no illusions as to "my rights" as an American citizen when I am no longer in the United States. Recent legislations in America give illegal immigrants more access to social programs than natural born Americans anyway. The United States put a Kenyan citizen into the head of Government, a self proclaimed Muslim and socialist, he said he woiuld fundamentally change that government, and he certainly has... meanwhile he has stolen billions from the economy and also from Lybia, a nation he illegally began a war with expressly for the purpose of that theft. The American people do nothing, so they are willing to accept socialism, and the rule of a deciever thief foreigner, socialism it seems, did not work out so well for Greece and other socialist countries.