Time for Animal rights in Thailand

[thor]

Thailand is a Buddhist country and Thai people are kind and well disposed towards animals so it is hardly surprising that there was a rally and march in Bangkok yesterday (Sunday 4th September) specifically against the trafficking of Dogs to Vietnam (where they will be most cruelly slaughtered) but also more generally to provide for tougher laws with higher penalties to those who are cruel to animals.

I was there to support them because I fully agree with their position. The Dog trade is an abomination.



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[dutchboy]

Thor,

Appreciate your point, however.......

How about
- Cow Trade
- Pig Trade
- Chicken Trade
- Turkey Trade

How about chickens sitting by the thousands in a "barn" in cages barely bigger than themselves, never see daylight.
How about pigs in cages where they can hardly move, get their food automatically with growth enhancers in it.
etc.

What's so different between eating cow, pig, chicken, turkey, rabbit, duck, etc and dog (or cat for that matter)

[surinfarm]

Rights? A human fabricated political entity.

How about vegetable matter rights?
Vegetation world has feelings as well.

[surinfarm]

This Western PC ideal needs to adjust accordingly towards it's own hypocrisy.

[dutchboy]

Let's face it, you have the choice between starvation and eating dog.

What's your choice.

Eating things that normally would not be done (although there are many countries where eating dog is "normal") usually springs out of necessity.

Look at the survivors of the Andes Plane crash decades ago. They survived by eating human flesh.
Digusting? Sure at first sight it is.
Unthinkable? Not really if your choice is to starve to death or eat your already dead friend.

Let's not overdramatise the fact that people are eating dog meat shall we? Only vegetarians should have a problem with that.

[wilko]

I'm not a great fan of the expression "animal rights" as it really doesn't reflect the full range of issues stretching from crulety to animals to conservation in general.

In theory I have nothing against eating dog - per se - so long as they are farmed and killed in the same way domesticated livestock is - however that is not the case. you might want to watch a few videos about dog slaughter in Korea and what is done to the animal whilst alive in order to "tenderize" it.

In a society where starvation was habitually just around the corner, culture of eating anything inevitably develops. However it is fairly clear that the eating of animals outside the range of domesticated animals is not a necessity in most case but a fetish, usually based on some ludicrous misinformation.


The problem really is that the vast majority of people here in Thailand are profoundly ignorant of the issues surrounding animal welfare and conservation.......and I have say say that this seems to be the case with most of the posters on this thread too........debating whether or not you personally would eat dog or trying to compare it with domesticated food animals is just plain silly and fails to show any recognition of the real issues behind all this, and the ramifications.

[surinfarm]

@Surinfarm:

1. Plants have no nerval system... how could they <FEEL> anything?

How could ever begin to know this? As our knowledge is species-centred, therefore we find everything around us in a heavily-centred manner - including "our" invented scientific models.

[surinfarm]

Shouldn't we attempt to get along with one another before attempting to lord over other life forms with our deluded and fanciful notions of species superiority?

[wilko]

two more posts that demonstrate the depth of ignorance on these issues!

[zorrothai]

Sorry you have such a low opinion of people in Thailand. Why is it that some people feel their own understanding is so much greater than everyone else? Just because dog in not eaten by Westerners,as a rule, does not mean SE Asians are ignorant/nor misinformed about what is edible. While I agree that it would be better if edible dogs were treated the same as "domesticated animals" in preparation for slaughter, Westerners are no stranger to mistreating animals for profit and idealistic extremes.

I'm not a great fan of the expression "animal rights" as it really doesn't reflect the full range of issues stretching from crulety to animals to conservation in general.

In theory I have nothing against eating dog - per se - so long as they are farmed and killed in the same way domesticated livestock is - however that is not the case. you might want to watch a few videos about dog slaughter in Korea and what is done to the animal whilst alive in order to "tenderize" it.

In a society where starvation was habitually just around the corner, culture of eating anything inevitably develops. However it is fairly clear that the eating of animals outside the range of domesticated animals is not a necessity in most case but a fetish, usually based on some ludicrous misinformation.


The problem really is that the vast majority of people here in Thailand are profoundly ignorant of the issues surrounding animal welfare and conservation.......and I have say say that this seems to be the case with most of the posters on this thread too........debating whether or not you personally would eat dog or trying to compare it with domesticated food animals is just plain silly and fails to show any recognition of the real issues behind all this, and the ramifications.