Airport Scam

Re: Airport Scam

Postby christoon on Thu Jul 23, 2009 11:33 am

Rightly or Wrongly this British THIEVES have been punished and unless they are Total Idiots they will never set foot in Thailand again which is a good thing for all the law abiding Thai people.
The Thai Authorities should now concentrate on cleaning there own THEIVES up which have come to light through this story. This will be a good thing for all the law abiding visitors that come to Thailand in the future.
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Re: Airport Scam

Postby Renaissance on Thu Jul 23, 2009 2:51 pm

Public Announcement

Owing to the upcoming crackdown on corruption and illegal activities at the airport on 28th July as announced by the Transport Minister and the AAoT, all gangs working at K. Power and throughout the airport, corrupt airport police, touts, illegal taxis, illegal guides, and luggage trolley thieves are requested to take the day off. Tony, you are also excused work. In addition, the taxi mafia is requested to turn on their "broken" taxi meters and not to overcharge tourists. Normal business may resume the following day after the crackdown is over. Requests for lost revenue should be made to the officials to whom you pay your monthly fees to be allowed to operate at The Land of Smiles' main airport.

Thank you.
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A cool calm head

Postby pbeieio on Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:27 pm

I have worked in retail and have caught and prosecuted thieves of all nationalities (including BRITISH and THAI). I have spent countless hours reviewing CCTV tapes.

In an English court when such CCTV coverage is presented as evidence "for" the prosecution, we generally replay it at a "normal" speed (not +20% time) and we are prevented from inserting red rings on the tape that may "highlight", obscure or mislead a magistrate or a jury.

The video supplied by ////// Power is inconclusive at best and attracts suspicion by it's format, speed and lack of resolution.

In any retail "self service" environment, "pilferage" is expected and measures are undertaken to deter "shoplifters".
Magnetic security tags are an effect0ive deterrent, particularly when secreted in small "high value" items that are easily "pocketable"

I am astounded that a multi-national retail operation like ////// Power does not institute such standard practices in order to avoid potential “misunderstandings” and protect their profitability.

I do recall that the same company also operates at Changi Airport (Singapore) and one might assume that “pilferage” occurs there too.

The significant difference between two similar “incidents” that may occur at either airports is that the one in Singapore attracts no adverse publicity and a similar event in Thailand does.

Singapore is renowned for the harsh penalties that may be imposed upon a transgressor, but there is an inherent presumption that “the rule of law” exists, and is vehemently practiced.

Can we honestly say the same for this land?
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Re: A cool calm head

Postby obroadie on Thu Jul 23, 2009 4:41 pm

pbeieio wrote:I have worked in retail and have caught and prosecuted thieves of all nationalities (including BRITISH and THAI). I have spent countless hours reviewing CCTV tapes.

In an English court when such CCTV coverage is presented as evidence "for" the prosecution, we generally replay it at a "normal" speed (not +20% time) and we are prevented from inserting red rings on the tape that may "highlight", obscure or mislead a magistrate or a jury.

The video supplied by ////// Power is inconclusive at best and attracts suspicion by it's format, speed and lack of resolution.

In any retail "self service" environment, "pilferage" is expected and measures are undertaken to deter "shoplifters".
Magnetic security tags are an effect0ive deterrent, particularly when secreted in small "high value" items that are easily "pocketable"

I am astounded that a multi-national retail operation like ////// Power does not institute such standard practices in order to avoid potential “misunderstandings” and protect their profitability.

I do recall that the same company also operates at Changi Airport (Singapore) and one might assume that “pilferage” occurs there too.

The significant difference between two similar “incidents” that may occur at either airports is that the one in Singapore attracts no adverse publicity and a similar event in Thailand does.

Singapore is renowned for the harsh penalties that may be imposed upon a transgressor, but there is an inherent presumption that “the rule of law” exists, and is vehemently practiced.

Can we honestly say the same for this land?


Yeah.....yeah....yeah.......

You stick to your rule book and the laws that let guilty people go free because of 'technicalities' and the rest of normal folks will call a duck a duck when we see one. HELOOOOO - The change of clothes.... the seperate tables...... Did you even read this thread in full or decide to vent after page 3.

I can't believe this guy.

Oh and no I didn't miss your point. Thailand is crap at doing things properly. But a thieving scumbag is a thieving scumbag in any country.
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Re: Airport Scam

Postby mekong on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:25 pm

Scams being exploited is the best defense.

this is very interesting monk scam...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWbU8Ehj ... r_embedded
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Re: Airport Scam

Postby mekong on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:29 pm

fact is ////// power for past 4 years have been under investigations for payoff to the thaksin regime of kick back to enable them to monopolize the airport vending service.
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Re: Airport Scam

Postby obroadie on Thu Jul 23, 2009 5:45 pm

mekong wrote:fact is ////// power for past 4 years have been under investigations for payoff to the thaksin regime of kick back to enable them to monopolize the airport vending service.


Yes but the point is that a British couple who allegedly committed a crime are denying it to the whole world AND capitalizing on the matter by selling their story. They will end up with a few hundred thousand pounds after this.....for being petty thieves.

Yes there is the police corruption matter and lets hope that's dealt with too but please.... lets not cry or give sympathy to this couple.

BTW the Kickback investigation has NOTHING to do with this topic. Only as an aside. That's a corporate / government issue. This is a public / police issue. That's a very important distinction.
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Re: Airport Scam

Postby stilljustbrowsing on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:05 pm

The more that is said, the stranger it becomes. Assuming the woman stole the wallet, then handed it to her husband, who then threw it in a bin, were they both wearing gloves, was the wallet tested for fingerprints? They were detained sufficiently long enough for these basic tests to have been carried out, wierd hey?
Why wait so long to arrest them in the first place? Why were they not stopped on immediate exit from the shop?
Too many inconsistenses for me to say who is most wrong!
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Re: A cool calm head

Postby timjackelton on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:24 pm

Yeah.....yeah....yeah.......

You stick to your rule book and the laws that let guilty people go free because of 'technicalities' and the rest of normal folks will call a duck a duck when we see one. HELOOOOO - The change of clothes.... the seperate tables...... Did you even read this thread in full or decide to vent after page 3.

I can't believe this guy.


A bit unfair on A Cool Calm Head, he makes some good points,

1. Where is the wallet now if it was not found on the couple, and is there any photos of the wallet, and the suspects by the garbage bin or sitting at different tables?

2. The change of cloths idea does not fit with me either, who can confirm that in this badly constructed video are the suspects? It is possible that this video was doctored, red ring and a unusual frame rate, very easy to do in this day and age.
May be they never changed their cloths, this was only raised by the ////// Power letter. As yet I do not recall any Police involved in this story so far presenting any evidence to the media as they do on a day to day basis here in Thailand.

I agree, thieves are scum and a nightmare for retailers and police, but the way this couple were handled (now as far back as April,) why did it take so long for this story to get out, not forgetting the other foreigner's who have been subjected to the same treatment. (Danish Embassy)

Remember once these people paid the money they received a paper to say that the charges were dropped! Something strange going on here too!

"DON'T BELIEVE ALL OF ////// POWER'S LETTER" we need the proof/evidence from the police too. Where is it?
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Re: Airport Scam

Postby massein on Thu Jul 23, 2009 6:29 pm

i wonder at the value of said wallet, It was so valuable that the couple change clothes and set seperatly to confuse
enforcement personel.giving the husband oppertunity to dispose of the item. They must of realize that they had been spotted
. I personelly believe they were guilty. but their treatment during investigation was way off base
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