Kun Thaksin, Nobel Peace Prize for 2009?

[Chaiyuth]

Looks like Martti Ahtisaari beat Thaksin to it. This year that is. But next year, you never know.

[thong]

Kun Thaksin, Nobel Peace Prize for 2009? Why not! He has never resorted to violent to protect himself. He worked hard for the benefit of the PEOPLE. Unfortunately the PEOPLE here do not include the military and the pooyais - they have plundered enough. He seek to expand the economic cake so every hard working Thai can prosper. He give voice to the suppressed. He raised the dignity of the poor and promote hard and smart work ethic. He raised Thailand's international standing. Through all these he is actually promoting peace but not the peace in the heart and mind of the military and the pooyais.

[villager]

Thong, i can think of about 2,500 reasons why it is an insult to any right thinking person,s intelligence to utter Thaksin and The Nobel peace prize in the same breath.

[thong]

[quote="villager"]Thong, i can think of about 2,500 reasons why it is an insult to any right thinking person,s intelligence to utter Thaksin and The Nobel peace prize in the same breath.[/quote]

You can have your 2,500 reasons. Do you have any from PAD, the military or the pooyai you want to nominate for the peace prize? May you have the peace of heart and mind and have right thinking and intelligence.

[Lt Kata]

Kun Thaskin has done a lot for the people of Thailand ..
He didn't want play with the socialo political farce of the lobbyists and that the reason that the coup came...
Before to be PM Kun Thaskin was a very rich man he didn't need to be PM to make money...
To many people want him out by jealousy and didn't have the gutts to wait he came back to organise the coup...
These people whon they aren are cowards and are responsable of the Anarchy in Thailand...
Yes I will vote for Ku Thaskin to get The nobel Price and concerning the cleansing of the drug dealers that was a very good things but a lot of killing imputed to the police was done by corrupted people for their own gain
Please at least be honest with what you say...What the people of Thailand got now without Kun Thaskin...Nothing. yes they got idiots whom act like terrorism whom aremaking people of Thailand poorer than ever

[Stense]

First thanks to Lt kata and thong, if not wrong they are "both Thai", and by so they should know the real Thai soul far far better than "villanger," now 5 years in Thailand as a self appointed "What Thaksin might have done wrong LIBRARIAN." In spite of what has taken place, firstly by the PAD pirate doing their very best to take those representing 9% of Thailand's GNP as hostage, not talking about the long term effects. Did they not on the top conducted their headless behavior in the name of Democracy? As librarian lives in the past, an excuse for "villanger" and his "conspirators." None can today say: This is how the future of Thailand will look, and "villanger" has like me, no vote. We can only give our opinions, and the heading we might select ,can be formulated in order to create curiosity ( like most journals do) by doing so we can even get the "dusty" Librarian on the hook! To end today; The election of a Thai government able to bring the Thai people together again is as open as who among those being nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 might get it!

[thong]

Thanks, Stense for the comment.

I don't need the Villiager's 2,500 reasons, I want to further ask him the following.

Can we have at least one proof now on what started off 3 years ago as corruptions and abused of power charges on Thaksin. The military then used 4 reasons to stage a coup. Can we have at least a proof please.

Yes, you can refer to the conviction on the land case. But the problem on the reason for the conviction is that it becomes a reason for further social divide and unrest. It becomes a reason that the PEOPLE will ask for the investigation on the interfering of the judiciary. The whole legal system is mobilized to undermine the people elected government. Let us refer to another case on Samat's hobby on cooking. Suddenly the court came out with its own new definition on employment. I thought Samat would just have a warning or reprimand by the Court!!! May be further back. The protesters OUTSIDE of \\ ////'s house were faced with Police retaliation by force and some were jailed. The PAD outright law breaking armed illegal assemblies were allowed to continue even IN Government House.

Thaksin came back to Thailand thinking that the judiciary will be fair to him but what were going on did not give him any reason not to believe that the legal system was and is mobilized to convict him. The illegal PAD did not allow the court to do the rightful job and demanded that Thaksin must be convicted. Thaksin was already convicted even before the cases were before the Court. I am not a lawyer and don't need a list of the court rulings but I believe the "Truth Today" movement have lawyers keeping a list. The judges better resign early before any investigation is carried up.

History tell us that whether it is a Monarchy or democracy system, the Kingdom and the Nation belongs to the PEOPLE. When PEOPLE were suppressed by the unwise Monarch or government to an extend that they cannot bear anymore, then new Kingdom or government surface but before that happen bloodshed is inevitable.

Let us have peace with our inner souls and guided by the Divine.

[SARDINES]

Thanks, Stense for the comment.

I don't need the Villiager's 2,500 reasons, I want to further ask him the following.

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Hi Thong,

I think the villager was referring to the alleged 2,500 deaths and possible extra-judiciary slayings during the war on drugs a couple of year back.

Whether you agree with it or not and even whether it is true or not.... with that kind of blemish hanging over you like a shadow, there is no way TK can be considered as a candidate. Again, I'm not agreeing or dis-agreeing but just stating the facts objectively.

SARDINES

[villager]

Yeah Sardines , 2500 deaths which were described as extra judicial killings, and Thaksin giving the weak excuse that all the so called drug dealers killed each other at his behest beggars belief, all those deaths and yet no one was EVER brought to justice for even 1 of them , of course myself along with the UN, amnesty international and human rights watch have not got the facts right about the greatest travesty of justice and trampling of human rights in Thalands history.

[SARDINES]

Yeah Sardines , 2500 deaths which were described as extra judicial killings, and Thaksin giving the weak excuse that all the so called drug dealers killed each other at his behest beggars belief, all those deaths and yet no one was EVER brought to justice for even 1 of them , of course myself along with the UN, amnesty international and human rights watch have not got the facts right about the greatest travesty of justice and trampling of human rights in Thalands history.

in being fair, villager, I think that the deaths & murders were several combinations and not necessarily on specific group or cause.

- Of course, I agree that some bad cops took out some druggies so no need for paper work.
- Also believe that a large portion was by the drug dealers themselves as well, in order to cut the trail to them.
- In addition, there must have been vendettas / revenge murders for nothing that had to do with drugs but just took advantage of the situation.

I do agree with TK's policy on war on drugs but what I think he did wrong was the clear instructions of providing proof. However, keep in mind that the cops ... especially in the provinces... are pretty corrupt themselves. Even with a clear order, the system might not be in place to properly monitor.

Finally, whether we agree with the policy or not, right before TK came to office, drugs had come to an all time high in Thailand... (ya baa - amphetamines) ... you have to admit that while TK was in office, the drug trade dropped significantly. Unfortunately, it is now back with avengence and drugs are everywhere now again.

Though I agree that TK is not a very good nomination for the Nobel Peace prize, I also don't completely disagree with the War on Drugs policy... just how it was implemented.

SARDINES