Dozens die in night club fire

[pachangamac042]

Sean, AND YOUR MESSAGES IS???

[Sean Moran]

Sean, AND YOUR MESSAGES IS???

Please provide links to the articles you quote from in future.

[pachangamac042]

Sorry Sean, but why you do not just say so, instead of that strange reply you sent to me? Would have saved two more posts.

[Sean Moran]

Sorry Sean, but why you do not just say so, instead of that strange reply you sent to me? Would have saved two more posts.

Just helping out. It seems that Mr Bulman wrote something rather conflicting with your opinion, and I can't say what happened except for recalling some of the places I've walked into north-west of Ekamai - fire hazards abound! Buyer beware!

I don't mean to offend, but the full story was an eyewitness report, and he seems to have been castigated rather severely by some of the comments below the article as a "shareholder" and whatever, when the man was saving peoples' lives on New Year's Day.

I just thought it might be good karma to give him a break and also to respect those who didn't make it out, or who are ///// in some hospital with a burned face to look in the mirror at for the rest of their lives.

BTW: Congratulations on your 500th post at the top of the page, Mac.

[pachangamac042]

Cheers Sean, I have not realized myself that I have so many posts in here. Proves, how little things I have to do with my time up here in the village.

Regarding Mr Busman, well let me tell you, that I read the article a couple of times and thought twice, before posting my comments in here. But my humble opinion is, that all he does here is to cover up for his friend the owner of the club. Fair enough for them, not fair at all for the victims.

Hey, sounds always good if this things come from a foreigner, doesn’t it? But, somebody is bullsh*ting here and for me, it is him. He sad, that at the moment the fire started he was outside, and only realized that something was wrong when people started to storm out of the place. Which means that some time had past already since the fire started. Then he said that he went inside to help people. So, hundreds of people storming out, but he still gets inside, to help people? Would he not have been a big obstruction for the people trying to get out? He mentioned 90 seconds after the fire started, “Within 90 seconds the club was engulfed”, 90 seconds, is a very short time, but he seems to know exactly when the fire started?

He was in the front of the club first, and then busy saving people, but he still knows that “there were three exits and they were all used by the escapees.” My guess, he has been interviewing the escapees to find out, because he could not have seen it if he was so busy helping people.

“Downstairs in the toilet area, each toilet was connected to the outside as they are open to the elements; however the boardwalk above covered any means of escape. We did manage to get through that (this is where the owner was ripping his way through to try and reach the toilet area) and rescue the people from the men's and women's toilet areas, again a misreport. My friend Jic was in the ladies' toilet and I sent two firemen down to reach her after they sprayed water on the club entrance area. They chain-led four girls from the toilet and saved them, others were pulled up from the now open boardwalk area at the side of the club.”

So he was busy trying to get to the toilettes which are open to the elements… Fair enough, but first he said, “I am the guy in the photographs and films in the white shirt covered in blood dragging people out of the window by the main door and the smoking lounge.” So seems like he was everywhere, doesn’t it? First in front of the pub when it all started, then inside the pub seeing bottles going up, then dragging people through the windows, then accessing to the toilette area. And all this just in the few minutes it took, for the pub to be fully engulfed in fire and smoke.

If you go through the whole topic and its post, then you will find out, that there were just too many contradictions. Strange enough, not many accounts from survivors, but even more strange is that just after his friend and boss of the club was interviewed by the police this opinion is made public in the BP. What a great guy his friend is, saving all those people and getting injured himself doing so. Let us all feel sorry with this great hero?

Now, could it not be that he has just been paid to write this opinion to the BP? His words; “let's all be realistic and show we know how this works in Thailand”.

Give me a break, but I do not buy. He is very quick with conclussions but how should he know at all, he was not in there. He may have done good that night, but how comes it has not been mentioned by any rescued person? Normally this things make news and sell good. The angel of Santika, you know what I mean.

Let's all be realistic and show we know how this works in Thailand!!!

I remember, that there were quite a lot of photos in The Nation. I will check them and see if I can find this angel in white all covered with blood.

[Sean Moran]

Cheers Sean, I have not realized myself that I have so many posts in here. Proves, how little things I have to do with my time up here in the village.

Regarding Mr Busman, well let me tell you, that I read the article a couple of times and thought twice, before posting my comments in here. But my humble opinion is, that all he does here is to cover up for his friend the owner of the club. Fair enough for them, not fair at all for the victims.

Hey, sounds always good if this things come from a foreigner, doesn’t it? But, somebody is bullsh*ting here and for me, it is him. He sad, that at the moment the fire started he was outside, and only realized that something was wrong when people started to storm out of the place. Which means that some time had past already since the fire started. Then he said that he went inside to help people. So, hundreds of people storming out, but he still gets inside, to help people? Would he not have been a big obstruction for the people trying to get out? He mentioned 90 seconds after the fire started, “Within 90 seconds the club was engulfed”, 90 seconds, is a very short time, but he seems to know exactly when the fire started?

I stopped reading around there but will try to get the time to read the rest. It seems that you have a differing opinion to the author or the article you quoted, Mr Bulman.. (Sorry for the typo Mr Julian.)

I don't know what to say to you.

So seems like he was everywhere, doesn’t it? First in front of the pub when it all started, then inside the pub seeing bottles going up, then dragging people through the windows, then accessing to the toilette area. And all this just in the few minutes it took, for the pub to be fully engulfed in fire and smoke.

Is that the best you can do?

Would you prefer it if fires continued to burn until the media arrived to take snapshots of the casualties?

Mac, you have every right to an opinion on things and this is the place to voice it, but I know a few good friends who own raan-ahaans in Thailand and if I was there with my friend and there was a fire at his place, and I helped out, to save a few lives like a decent bloke would, and then the ratbags wanted to try to ostracise ME for a good effort, then I think it might be my right according to the BMA regulations to wish those people to burn in Hell.

Leave the heroes alone and go after the villians. They are not one and the same and iot is BAD karma to YOU if you persist.



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Just to cool things down a little in a climatic sense, name the ship, the port, the destination, the typhoon and the date. (It was last year)



CHIT HAPPENS! blame yo momma wot brung you here!

[pachangamac042]

Sean, “Is that the best you can do?”, let me see, you did not read the whole post, no idea if you read the topic and the following posts, but still you can form an opinion like; “Leave the heroes alone and go after the villians. They are not one and the same and iot is BAD karma to YOU if you persist.”

Well, I am not going to tell you my opinion about you here, that would be against the forum rules, maybe just, go and play with the kids. Talk to you again when you grown up.

[Sean Moran]

Sean, “Is that the best you can do?”, let me see, you did not read the whole post, no idea if you read the topic and the following posts, but still you can form an opinion like; “Leave the heroes alone and go after the villians. They are not one and the same and iot is BAD karma to YOU if you persist.”

Well, I am not going to tell you my opinion about you here, that would be against the forum rules, maybe just, go and play with the kids. Talk to you again when you grown up.

MV P.r.i.n.c.e.s.s of S.t.a.r.s.

Sailing from Manila to Cebu.

Run aground by Typhoon Frank. (English translation)

June 21st, 2008.

Around 800 passengers either drowned or poisoned to death AFTER swimming to that airborne tomb by the agricultural chemicals leaked upward form the hold they were stored in by the sinking.

Choose your own destiny, Mac. Warmed or chilled?