When I first come in Pattaya

[Sean Moran]

I agree with what you say above.

Still, I have given Pattaya a bit of a drubbing this morning, and I sense a need to clarify my own statements.

Firstly, I don't look at Pattaya nor Nana Plaza nor Soi Cowboy nor Patpong as a part of traditional contemporary Thailand, but more as commercial sort of precincts, there to cater for the entertainment needs of tourists. I believe that the origin of Pattaya's naughty nightlife industry might have been from the naval base in Sattahip and Utapao airport, but these are my own uneducated opinions.

It is natural for men and women to be attracted to each other, and a tour of duty on a naval vessel full of men might be a bit like a term of imprisonment, where the moment your foot first touches solid ground and freedom, there's naturally one thing on a sailor's or ex-convict's mind; women.

Nothing wrong with that if certain rules are adhered to, I guess.

Perhaps now though, the subtle and discreet aspects of a good thing might have been pushed a little too far, but I'm honestly thinking as I type, and can probably find a better way to put my own opinions in writing with a little time to think.

I did honestly sense something that seemed not quite like most of the rest of Thailand in the times when I've been in the shopping centre up on Sukhumvit just north of the Jomtien turn off, and all around Pattaya. Possibly a case of being suddenly looked at by others as a tourist, where I'd been used to being seen by others as an ordinary human being in the other tambons I've lived in. It's is difficult to describe this feeling in words, but there is something about Pattaya that I personally reckon might be a little bit too hollywood for my liking.

I'll try to think of a better way to put this opinion later today.

[Sean Moran]

Hello, are you in Pattaya?

I'm a bit bad when I am here! Many thing stuff here, people,city, etc. lol

I would rather be in Pattaya now than here in Perth where I am, but still, if you ride down Sukh. to Mapthaphut and turn left onto Thanon 3191 that heads up to Nikhom Pattana and Pluak Daeng Dam, you'll reach Tambon Mabkha which is just past Thanon 36, and that's a place that I reckon is a lot more South-East Thailand than Pattaya.

As well as that though, a few of my friends have moved from Mabkha to Pattaya over the years in search of restaurant or factory work, and there's a lot of good people there. Just take away all the tourists and it would be perfect IMHO.

[Flylow]

Since 2004 I have spent about two years in Thailand. Some of the time professionally. Pattaya is definitely not "Thailand" , but it has something for almost every one to enjoy. Lets be honest, not many "Farangs" are of the educated class and some behave in a manner they would not dare in their country. The Thai people to take some abuse for the money they earn.

[Hellboy]

So, what do you think if no sex girl no one want to come Pattaya, isn't it???? And if nobody need too many sex so noone want to be prostitute, right???

I'm really sad when I know about this because Thai girl in general don't like to be prostitute or work in bar or club but some girl no education or even poor so please understand them and poor them not insulting them!!!

Pattaya is over priced and not representative of Thailand as a whole. If there were no ladies there selling their wares then there would be few tourists as the beaches are not very good.

[tingtong]

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Pattaya is over priced and not representative of Thailand as a whole.

You should go to Phuket ,--Everything is far more expensive there than in Pattaya. No Hotels in Phuket for 300 baht.

[Hellboy]

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Pattaya is over priced and not representative of Thailand as a whole.

You should go to Phuket ,--Everything is far more expensive there than in Pattaya. No Hotels in Phuket for 300 baht.

You will not find a hotel in Pattaya for 300 baht a night. You might find some shi t room above a bar for that with a fan. Cheap hotels in Pattaya start from about 600-700 baht. Phuket is seriously expensive and I do not go there, the rest of Thailand where tourists do not hang out is fairly cheap. Pattaya is expensive, many bars charging the same prices and more than bars in the UK.

[stilljustbrowsing]

So, benjamart first come in Pattaya, congratulations and celebrate! Not many virgins there and seems like we just lost another one!
Strange though it may seem to some, tourist sites would be a little devoid of people if it wasn't for the tourists (foreigners)
Cities do not attract sex, people do. (perhaps within cities)
For someboby who doesn't want to know much about it, you seem to know a lot. Is that from first-hand experience (nothing like a good "hands on" experience I suppose) or just here-say?
Your final paragraph is positively insulting in a negative way!
Flylow, your comments are such an enlightenment. You worked professionally in Thailand for two years and are an expert on both the current subject and "farangs" in general. I am not even going to try to phathom out what your professional dealings were about. (Perhaps you were flying so low it could be considered sub-terrainian)
All classes are educated. Unfortunately, common sense cannot be tought,(taught, tort , whatever, you know what I meen LOL) only gained.
I think the tourists "came" before the ladies, otherwise ther would be no reason for the ladies to be there in the first place! (unless the uneducated ladies decided to make it a tourist spot first just to attract the tourists)

[Hellboy]

Unfortunately, common sense cannot be tought,

No it cannot but it can be taught.

[stilljustbrowsing]

Oooher! t(h)anks! I am very happy that that was the only thing you thought wot was wrong that requiered to be corrected in my post. I feel Onheered. (for a small fee I can introduce her to yew!)

[fast eddy]

I must admit that over the thirteen years I have spent living full time in Thailand, Pattaya was right at the bottom of my list - with good reason. With so many excellent destinations to choose from, whether it by Raleigh beach (before the backpacker community, of which I was a fully paid up member, were priced out ), Koh Lanta, Hua-Hin and Pratchanburi's Dolphin Bay (which is still a little known gem) or the mountains of the North, I was spoilt for choice. However, after a recent move and having done the other places to death, me and my good lady decided to give Pattaya a shot. You know what, it's not so bad! Sure, it's seedy and full of tattooed larger louts, Indian touts, dubious ladies who cast doubts and deadbeats (both foreign and Thai) who's future prospects amount to the square root of nought! But that's a good thing - I'm on holiday and I want to see something different rather than Thai people going about their normal, everyday life! I get that every day! It's a human toilet to some degree and those that reside there on a long term basis can be seriously dragged under or fail to learn to fly

Having said that, The area known as Nakula is very pleasant. A very nice beach area which is shaded by trees and boasts some charming little coves, devoid of the mass of human excremant seen along the beach road. I was recommended to a few places to stay and found them to be very tranquil. By now, you can be sure that I do miss a dose or two of English fare and Crazy Dave's is a great little place to eat good old fashioned English grub, at a good price with a nice ambience (read ex-pat shot of home). Though, I only had time to stop for a bite to eat, that area also has a village feel about it though it is also in the center of a big city (come on Stilljustbrowsing - this is your cue!) we have second hand book shops, bars, guest houses, cafes etc. Though it could never be regarded as an area to take your family, it looks like an area to while away a few hours for adults.
So, there you go. Horses for courses sums up Pattaya

Fast Eddy