Stimulus funds, The environment and education

[american2]

The Thai government is proposing a massive multi billion Baht stimulus package. Though I am a foreigner it would be my hope that the education and training of the teachers in its educational system get their share. Then also the schools and students and the supplies that they need. This is the base for long term benefits from stimulus. Short term I hope that they consider Sewers and Sewage Treatment. Water Treatment and its transmission. Power transmission and generation (traditional and Green). Cleaning up some of the Rivers and Klongs and ending the waste runoff from the factories and farms. Perhaps a never ending program of environment protection (from education of what one should do with trash to the reforestation of the Nations forest area (what is this unused land is untaxed law anyway). The education of the Thai people (and foreigners) of the effects of their activities and choices on the environment. I think this would keep quite a few people employed and restore Thailand while it waits for the world economy to improve and tourism to improve.

[pachangamac042]

American2, your wish may not be granted, as it would be completely against the Thai powers to be philosophy. Educate the people? Teach them to think by themselves?

Can you imagine, the yellows marching towards the airports to occupy them, and they would think, but hold on, that is an airport, we can not take that over, that must be against the laws. Would not really work here, would it?

Keep the people stupid and uninformed, and the Thai circus show can go on forever. Don’t you think so?

The romans said something like; "give them games and wine and they will be happy!" In Thailand it should be; "give them soap operas and rice and they will be happy?"

[Sean Moran]

The Thai government is proposing a massive multi billion Baht stimulus package. Though I am a foreigner it would be my hope that the education and training of the teachers in its educational system get their share. Then also the schools and students and the supplies that they need. This is the base for long term benefits from stimulus.

Short term I hope that they consider Sewers and Sewage Treatment. Water Treatment and its transmission. Power transmission and generation (traditional and Green). Cleaning up some of the Rivers and Klongs and ending the waste runoff from the factories and farms. Perhaps a never ending program of environment protection (from education of what one should do with trash to the reforestation of the Nations forest area (what is this unused land is untaxed law anyway). The education of the Thai people (and foreigners) of the effects of their activities and choices on the environment. I think this would keep quite a few people employed and restore Thailand while it waits for the world economy to improve and tourism to improve.

On the localisation of education responsibilities and freedom to spend their own money, I remember this story from last November by Sanitsuda Ekachai:

http://bangkokpost.com/topstories/topst ... ?id=131857

On the environmental education, SEA is a big place to turn into a refuse-disposal facility, mai pen lai, but there are too many plastic bags left behind on the beaches after public holidays for baleen whales to have much of a fluke at appetizing cuisine when the leftovers all blow out to sea.

There was a long-running campaign once known as Keep Australia Beautiful. It seems to have worked on the plastic bag and beer can syndrome here, long time ago, but the way things have been politically lately in LoS, it might require bipartisan support to Keep Thailand Beautiful over the long run. It might take more than a few months to achieve that critical mass of public opinion to perpetuate the common attitude without accidentally turning the place into another nanny state.

[stilljustbrowsing]

To enable the "critical mass of the population" to formulate their own ideas sounds great! (unfortunately, they require the necessary education first)
BTW, Was "keep Australia beautiful" instigated by the Aborigines, (watch out for that boomerang! Missed, Ooer, here it comes again) or the infiltrators! (stilljustmessingabout)
I must admit to being "stimulated" by the receipt of funds, love an "environment" that enhances my ability to receive further funds, and am able to "educate" people in matters related to my receival of said "funds!" (I think that covers most of this forum)

[american2]

Perhaps some initiative by the travel/leisure advocates (foreign) could begin to spur some interests by the Government (Thai). While they advocate their tours to Thailand maybe they could advise/post the water quality of the rivers/ponds/and sea/beaches. The waters in Thailand are barely (sometimes not at all) fit to swim in. Septic installed too close to the water aquifer, no sewage treatment and extremely poor waste disposal. Educate your children and yourselves. Education is the path to peaceful change.

[Sean Moran]

BTW, Was "keep Australia beautiful" instigated by the Aborigines,

I just went for a wiki and all I came up with were these:



KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL

<AND>


Keep Britain Tidy.

If you read the dates that these campaigns began, (1953/55 for US/UK), I suppose they might have been motives for the original Aussie cover version, and there's an ominous irony in the slogan that PC replaced Keep Australia Beautiful with ...

... it's now known as Clean Up Australia.

Perhaps some initiative by the travel/leisure advocates (foreign) could begin to spur some interests by the Government (Thai). While they advocate their tours to Thailand maybe they could advise/post the water quality of the rivers/ponds/and sea/beaches. The waters in Thailand are barely (sometimes not at all) fit to swim in. Septic installed too close to the water aquifer, no sewage treatment and extremely poor waste disposal. Educate your children and yourselves. Education is the path to peaceful change.

Where can I find a tertiary campus to complete my masters' degree in having non-biodegradeable trash stuffed down my throat *** ? Respect for the ground that our feet happen to be standing on is enough education if we consider the karma, IMHO.

I don't see education having much use outside the classroom unless there's a change in attitude by the majority. Perhaps it might help the kids to stop throwing paper at each other up the back of the room, but they're straight back at it again as soon as they get outside when the lesson ends.

---o0o---

*** Actually, maybe that question's best left unanswered.

[stilljustbrowsing]

Having water, not fit to swim in prevents unnecessary drowning. (inverse logic perhaps?)
Education is the path to revolution and change, hopefully peacful, but in most cases has been violent.

[Sean Moran]

Having water, not fit to swim in prevents unnecessary drowning. (inverse logic perhaps?):!:
Education is the path to revolution and change, hopefully peacful, but in most cases has been violent.

Having education is the path to petrochemical-engineering credentials, hopefully legitimately, but in some cases has been the cause of water-shortages across parts of coastal Rayong reliant on Pluak Daeng Dam to then take a shower in toxic red mud from the bottom of the empty water tank. Thank the Lord for Oishi!

[stilljustbrowsing]

If the water tank is empty, how can they take a shower? A MIRACLE! Perpetual water from an empty well! (Irrespective of it's content)

[Sean Moran]

If the water tank is empty, how can they take a shower? A MIRACLE!

In hollywood they call them mud-baths. It's about cleansing, apparently?