Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby Sean Moran on Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:44 am

stilljustbrowsing wrote:If youv'e got a bird on the pillion, get a "thumper", they love the vibes! :D


Good Golly! :o

And all that time I was thinking she just appreciated my good defensive riding and navigation skills and only squeezed her arms around my tummy because she was afraid of falling off the back or something. :lol:

I think this one might take a little more contemplation before I can think up a polite response. :cheers:

*having a cigar* 8-) : <-- pretend Bill Clinton smiley 9-).
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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby stilljustbrowsing on Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:16 am

As long as she only squeezed your tummy your concentration must have remained on the road ahead :lol:
We are talking long distance here arn't we? :D
I mean, I mean, here I am sitting on a group "W" bench, and you wanna' know if I've rehabilitated myself........... For littering! :cheers:
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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby Sean Moran on Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:31 am

One aspect of the Honda 4-stroke I tested that might have been a nuisance variable on the highways was the four-speed box.

It seemed to be running around 5500rpm at 100km/h by the sound of it, and it even had some sort of eco-friendly badge on the side cover, so it was clearly a bike designed for local commuting, and the 4-speed part was obviously to reduce the manufacture cost.

If I buy a 4-stroke next trip to LoS, Ima make sure it's a 5-speed. :cheers:

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That'll keep you going through the show!

I give up. :lol:

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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby stilljustbrowsing on Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:46 am

Just be careful it's not one of those constant velocity, variable noise machines :lol:
I love four speed boxes! :twisted:
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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby Sean Moran on Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:52 am

I believe the pronunciation that gets me by in Thailand when I first walk into the shop is "manew clut" which affords a little more engine braking in tight situations IMHO. I'd expect a centrifugal clutch machine to be driving close to 100% of that of a manual at high speed though.

Automatic clutches are for toddler bikes. :lol:
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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby stilljustbrowsing on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:19 am

Yeah, I remember when Norton Tried their "slick Shift", or was it Sh#t Slipped :twisted:
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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby Sean Moran on Tue Nov 18, 2008 11:33 am

HAHAHA!

And the moral of the story was, If you like listening to the whine of a pre-selector gearbox, then whydoncha catch a bus?

On magic motorcycle memorabilia moments, what would you reckon I'd pay now for a Suzuki RE-5 rotary in good condition thesedays?

Considering the Mazda RX-7 from the pov of fuel economy and bhp, but with the light-weight and lower wind resistance of a bike, maybe the answer to long-distance motorcycle touring in Thailand is not the two-stroke nor the four-stroke but the Wankel rotary engine?

As for standard singles though, I reckon it's worth testing out a 5-speed 4-stroke next time in LoS. I'm starting to wonder if that missing gear ratio might have been an overdrive fifth on the old Suzy, but I would have though that top gear on any bike would be 1:1, which would really only add an extra gear in the mid-range, but next test = 4-stroke 5-speed!

Thanks for adding in the Kawasaki factor. :cheers:


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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby stilljustbrowsing on Wed Nov 19, 2008 10:42 pm

Nothing wrong with a good "Wankel" engine. Probably cheaper in the long run!(less stress but the tips wear out too quickly) :lol:
The only "whine" I get these days comes from the Wife, but that's tollerable (she's lovely really) :cheers:
At least I was right about Otto, 2 strokes don't have valves and fire two times as quick. :mrgreen:
Not good at the moment. I remember the Kwak 250, two stroke triple cylinder, again only good in a straight line. Motto Guzzi make the best cruisers IMO, 850cc is best!
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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

Postby stilljustbrowsing on Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:58 pm

Sorry, I appear to have answered only half the question, if indeed I gave you an answer at all!
To buy a Suzuki rotary engined RE-5 will cost you "a lot" as Monty Python would say, (ref. "how much do you hate the Romans"). Not sure if that is appropriate here but never mind.
4 speed boxes with 5 speed selections are to be avoided at all costs, unless you are stupid enough not to spot the difference! :cheers:
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Re: Motorcycles: 2-stroke vs. 4-stroke, Long Distance.

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