Amendments to the constitution

[Ian]

It joined the other "dirt" swept under the carpet.

Yeah J1V, it seems so. Here is a bit from a TN report dated Mar 31th:


In a related story, leaders of the PAD yesterday turned themselves in to police to face charges involving the seizure of Parliament on October 7 last year.


Twenty-one PAD leaders surrendered to police at the \\ //// Thai Police Club on Vibhavadi-Rangsit Road. Forty-two police were deployed to question the suspects before pressing charges against them.

More than 2,000 PAD members turned up to give moral support to their leaders, causing heavy traffic congestion on adjacent roads. Hundreds of police kept tight security at the club.

Bangkok deputy police chief Pol Maj General Amnuay Nimmano said the 21 PAD leaders were charged with instigating unrest, obstructing police duties, and detaining state officials - in connection with the incident that led protesters to lay siege to Parliament on October 7.

He said the PAD leaders were questioned but refused to give statements. Their lawyers sought from the police 30 days to submit their statements, which police allowed.

Amnuay said all 21 suspects were fingerprinted after being presented with the three charges. They were released without having to post bail because they had not been arrested.

Does this come as a suprise to anyone?

[Just-1-Voice2]

Scy.

Ahhh, my delusional friend, the only pictures on my walls are one of His Maj.esty, one painting of Lord Buddha, and about a dozen of my wife. Sorry to disappoint you.

The point I was trying to make to Green a/k/a Kant, is that he has continually looked at things from only one side, and through heavily tinted glasses. He feels that PAD are heroes to the country, and doesn't see that they have done anything wrong, while painting everyone in a red shirt as a Taxin Thug. If he would bother to use the education he claims to have, and read something besides the BP and Nation, he might come to realize that there are a whole lot of "reds" who are NOT supporters of Dr. T, but DO support freedom and democracy. But his soul-eating hatred for Thaksin leaves him blind to everything else. While everyone in red is a demon, everyone in yellow is an angel. Sorry, he, and others like him, really need to wake up and realize there's a whole lot more than just red and yellow, and more than just Thaksin and Abhist.

[Voice]

Scyraicus wrote,
hi j1v2, we are full of illusions, not delusions and we love to hear that we have similar pics on our walls.
we do not like green/kant too much but we respect his point of view.
we do not like thugsin & we do NOT respect his point of view.
we do not like anyone who CLAIMS to have a better education than others.
we do support freedom & democracy & the whole lot more....

It sounds like contradiction to me in your last statement Scyriacus! If you are supporting freedom & Democracy why do you think what PAD did were right for us freedom-loving people. What ever PAD did isn’t morally right or duty right by far or for them to take our freedom away and force their view on us majority.

You said, “We do not like anyone who CLAIMS to have a better education than others.” Why is that Scyriacus?

[Ian]

This entire Forum seems to have degenerated into a vast intellectual wasteland where ideas are no longer considered while everyone competes for the best insult that will really bite without getting the author canned here. Not really worth much time, thought or attention.

For once I agree, I find I am starting to contribute less and less to topics. The only peaceful locations seems to be Orange, even the Nation is beseiged by vicious bickerings.

[Profiler]

This entire Forum seems to have degenerated into a vast intellectual wasteland where ideas are no longer considered while everyone competes for the best insult that will really bite without getting the author canned here. Not really worth much time, thought or attention.

For once I agree, I find I am starting to contribute less and less to topics. The only peaceful locations seems to be Orange, even the Nation is beseiged by vicious bickerings.

But atleast there I can understand the bickering, with Thanongs anti-US and anti-Europe campaign... One doesn't have to participate, its pretty fun to watch as he gets flamed in his own blog.

[Profiler]

This entire Forum seems to have degenerated into a vast intellectual wasteland where ideas are no longer considered while everyone competes for the best insult that will really bite without getting the author canned here. Not really worth much time, thought or attention.

I think that was someone's idea from the beginning...

[stilljustbrowsing]

FOSS,

What I do think is that without a Constitution...you have Anarchy...Is this what you are advocating?

I also think both links that I provided are worth a read.

Thailand ran quite well without a constitution for about 10 years (something like 1958-68) and only re-introduced it to make the USA and UK happy. Incidently, did you know the UK does not have a constitution?

[prommee_NE]

SJB,

Some Countries do not need a "Constitution"...unwritten and commonsense to all. However, even the unwritten one in the UK was based on the Magna Carta. Updates by Acts of Parliament makes it roll along with progression...not a bad thing in my view...until certain people have come along.

This is a bit irrelevant to what I was trying to say though...Section 284 remaining in the 2007 Constitution suggests to me that decentralisation was not a ruling factor in the Coup...In fact it was the attempt to recentralise Government that led to Thaksin's ultimate downfall. Having supplied reference material as a case in point, I was offended that someone should say that it not need be read to prove me wrong...only someone's opinion was better than the material supplied (without having been read). Unfortunately those posts have now been deleted.

I was only the messenger...read and convince the forum otherwise...

[stilljustbrowsing]

Unfortunatly there are one or two persons that think they know all. As such it makes it very difficult to have a debate about such a complex subject.