The rich and the poor

[taurus]

could you please name me one, just one Sub Saharan African state who's black populace are better off than their black American counterparts , Socialist Zimbabwe perhaps?

The People's Progressive Socialist State of SixFeetUnder ?

Hey drake my friend your sense of humor kills me , of course there will be no factual answer to my question to Moxhambi about black "suppression" simply cos no such sensible answer exists ,I suppose its quite OK for some to rant on about black "Injustice's" in America, but when its put under the microscope and the truth is revealed about Africa, there words ring about hollow as their socialist beliefs, America's a great place to live,after all Million's of Illegal migrant Mexicans can't be wrong can they ,and I just wonder how many Cubans are drowned every year in their vain attempt to get to the US in their rickety boats trying to escape from the socialist utopia that is Cuba

[moxhambi]

Dear moxhambi,

You might want to check out one of drake's previous post where he stated that the problem with Thailand is nepotism before trying to tell him about nepotism ?
It's curious how you only picked on something drake wrote a couple of weeks ago while completely ignoring the 50 or so follow up posts by everyone else since and proceed to define him with all kind of false notions.
You associated drake with evils that was perpetrated by the Democrats in the past century but yet everything in his writing would suggest that he's anything but a Democrat (you did know that the original KKKs were Democrats and so was Charlie, right ?).
In fact, somewhere drake proclaimed himself a Free Marketer.

Based on your writing style, personal references, and sentiments in your two posts to date, drake suspects you may be someone who had lost an argument and choose to return to pick on the same losing subject under a new nom de plume.
As such, he is inclined to NOT take you or your post seriously and questions the reality of every reference you claims.
He's strongly considering not giving you the time of day.

Best regards,
DewMunki,
for drake.

The problem with Thailand is not nepotism, it the disparity between the rich and poor. Nepotism is a symptom, Oligarchy is the disease and if the wealthy 'elites' in Bangkok refuse to change, they will as all Oligarchies do, use tyranny and completely reliant on public servitude to maintain there existence. Of course the crooks in Thailand learned from the best, the crooks in America and the UK. Big business is not always good business. How can you call the name of CP foods and espouse free market. How many pieces of legislation in the past 9 generations has been put before the parliament which enriched CP foods directly or indirectly?

Charlie Wilson was a blue dog Democrat (might as well been Republican). My point was that Drake is as short sighted as Charlie Wilson was only seeing the people of Isaan as the problem, the way Wilson only saw the defeat of them, 'red in the diaper' communist without seeing the consequences of the actions taken to defeat the Soviets. Unless the Government of Thailand takes some action to include the people outside of the capital, they're going to at some point have a French revolution or a Yugoslavia situation with a break up of the country. What will the Government do? Send the rank and file soldiers to Isaan to kill their own families?

Why are you calling out the KKK? My point about the blacks in the US is that they demonstrated to be granted an equal station. And without Johnson seeing the righting on the wall and signing the Civil Right Act in 1964 the US would have been
embroiled in something it didn't want. Thailand needs to make some choices. Absihit has already gone and held the hands of the PAD. If he thinks that is helping with reconciliation in the rural areas he may get to see a side of the proletariat that he didn't know existed. They are not falling for the One Thai people out in the country. They know the truth, they aren't as dumb as you want to believe.

[drake]

by drake on Wed Aug 11, 2010 2:03 pm
terry wrote:
Moving the government administration out of Bangkok to Issan would help boost development for the regional economy! It’s been reported large parts of the capital will be under water in the not too distant future.
Drake wrote:
What for ?
A large part of BKK is under water every time it rains.

Because areas of Bangkok will be underwater permanently from rising sea levels, not just temporarily from rain. Apparently happening now to a temple by the mouth of the Chao Prahya River.

In a bigger scheme of things, most of the Thai gulf area used to be the bottom of the sea and BKK was built on a swamp.
The flooding issue around BKK is actually ground subsiding plus overruns from up country and not a rise in sea level.
Just look at the roadways around BangNa/Trad freeway, in some place the road had dropped over a foot below the median.

[drake]

could you please name me one, just one Sub Saharan African state who's black populace are better off than their black American counterparts , Socialist Zimbabwe perhaps?

The People's Progressive Socialist State of SixFeetUnder ?

Hey drake my friend your sense of humor kills me , of course there will be no factual answer to my question to Moxhambi about black "suppression" simply cos no such sensible answer exists ,I suppose its quite OK for some to rant on about black "Injustice's" in America, but when its put under the microscope and the truth is revealed about Africa, there words ring about hollow as their socialist beliefs, America's a great place to live,after all Million's of Illegal migrant Mexicans can't be wrong can they ,and I just wonder how many Cubans are drowned every year in their vain attempt to get to the US in their rickety boats trying to escape from the socialist utopia that is Cuba

Unfortunately, we are dealing with a bunch of irrational revisionist who rewrites history as they see fit.
They still have the agenda to subjugate the free world and their favourite technique is divide and conquer.
Notice how the are pumping up all the minority groups and pitch one against another ?
The next thing you know they are going to be pushing for autonomous regions in the NE and South.
The current generation has forgotten how bad it was in the 70s and 80s during the big communist crack down in Thailand.
Too bad for them if the govt. decide to do it again.
Wonder what is going to happen to all these foreign socialists who are riling up the natives then.
Maybe they'll get to dine with Jim Thompson.

[terry]

by drake on Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:30 pm


In a bigger scheme of things, most of the Thai gulf area used to be the bottom of the sea and BKK was built on a swamp.
The flooding issue around BKK is actually ground subsiding plus overruns from up country and not a rise in sea level.
Just look at the roadways around BangNa/Trad freeway, in some place the road had dropped over a foot below the median.

Anywho, getting back to the subject of this thread.

Moving the government administration to Issan would promote development there, helping to narrow the gap between rich and poor.

[taurus]

by drake on Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:30 pm


In a bigger scheme of things, most of the Thai gulf area used to be the bottom of the sea and BKK was built on a swamp.
The flooding issue around BKK is actually ground subsiding plus overruns from up country and not a rise in sea level.
Just look at the roadways around BangNa/Trad freeway, in some place the road had dropped over a foot below the median.

Anywho, getting back to the subject of this thread.

Moving the government administration to Issan would promote development there, helping to narrow the gap between rich and poor.

Hey Terry ,there are many Thai Chinese Business people in my immediate area in Buri ram province who drive flash cars,have beautiful homes and thriving business's whilst sending their children to private schools and later on to University ,they are also this towns major employer, I would highly doubt they need any assistance at all, as it appears they can manage their own affairs quite nicely without handing the begging bowl around , I wonder why??

[terry]

by taurus on Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:53 pm


Hey Terry ,there are many Thai Chinese Business people in my immediate area in Buri ram province who drive flash cars,have beautiful homes and thriving business's whilst sending their children to private schools and later on to University ,they are also this towns major employer, I would highly doubt they need any assistance at all, as it appears they can manage their own affairs quite nicely without handing the begging bowl around , I wonder why??

Simple. Hard work, drive! That’s their ethic.

You might enjoy reading the book, ‘letter’s from Thailand’.

[taurus]

by taurus on Fri Aug 13, 2010 2:53 pm


Hey Terry ,there are many Thai Chinese Business people in my immediate area in Buri ram province who drive flash cars,have beautiful homes and thriving business's whilst sending their children to private schools and later on to University ,they are also this towns major employer, I would highly doubt they need any assistance at all, as it appears they can manage their own affairs quite nicely without handing the begging bowl around , I wonder why??

Simple. Hard work, drive! That’s their ethic.

You might enjoy reading the book, ‘letter’s from Thailand’.

Yeah Terry Quite right, I already know as to why , I was just being a little sarcastic pure and simple , I would add another to your list and that is forward planning and acute awareness that there actually is a "TOMORROW"

[KhunJoseph]

the obvious social disparities that have led to the cyclic coups, constitutions, revolving governments and murder in Thailand's history.

It is NOT social disparity which has led to months, years and decades of cyclic coups, constitutions, revolving governments and murder in Thailand's history. Obviously, the real, 'root' cause is corruption. Societies can, even should, live with class distinctions. People are 'okay' with rich movie stars, sports heroes and royalty. It's the cheaters they don't like, those who are no better than themselves but get rich via bribery and corruption. People will pay taxes for society, but are askance to dish out pays offs for mia nois and BMW's.
If their teams gets scored on, okay, but NOT okay if it was on a missed hand ball or offside.
Thai politics, policing and business is ALL hand balls and offsides.
With the recent stalemate between the red and yellow gangs, more and more Thais are seeing and, even, writing about the REAL problem. The reds and yellows both have their reasons for perpetrating the hoax that is all about the rich and poor.
Rich and poor will always, always be with us; however some societies are way less corrupted than others.
Letting bullies and misfits like Sondhi and Thaksin run Thailand is the problem but, in a perverted way, they are victims of the system, too. When some crocodiles and snakes are eliminated, others fill in, get 'promoted', just like in mobster wars.
It's the swamp that needs draining!
In the past there has been a quick winner or a gang land truce to divvy up who gets the police, the military, the drug trade, the girl bars, the investment bribes and so on. The recent 'stalemate' has shone spot lights on the corrupted structure.
DROP the TALK about 'rich and poor' and FIGHT Corruption!

[taurus]

the obvious social disparities that have led to the cyclic coups, constitutions, revolving governments and murder in Thailand's history.

It is NOT social disparity which has led to months, years and decades of cyclic coups, constitutions, revolving governments and murder in Thailand's history. Obviously, the real, 'root' cause is corruption. Societies can, even should, live with class distinctions. People are 'okay' with rich movie stars, sports heroes and royalty. It's the cheaters they don't like, those who are no better than themselves but get rich via bribery and corruption. People will pay taxes for society, but are askance to dish out pays offs for mia nois and BMW's.
If their teams gets scored on, okay, but NOT okay if it was on a missed hand ball or offside.
Thai politics, policing and business is ALL hand balls and offsides.
With the recent stalemate between the red and yellow gangs, more and more Thais are seeing and, even, writing about the REAL problem. The reds and yellows both have their reasons for perpetrating the hoax that is all about the rich and poor.
Rich and poor will always, always be with us; however some societies are way less corrupted than others.
Letting bullies and misfits like Sondhi and Thaksin run Thailand is the problem but, in a perverted way, they are victims of the system, too. When some crocodiles and snakes are eliminated, others fill in, get 'promoted', just like in mobster wars.
It's the swamp that needs draining!
In the past there has been a quick winner or a gang land truce to divvy up who gets the police, the military, the drug trade, the girl bars, the investment bribes and so on. The recent 'stalemate' has shone spot lights on the corrupted structure.
DROP the TALK about 'rich and poor' and FIGHT Corruption!

KJ my Compliments, Undoubtedly the best post I have read for quite some time,the brutal truth is there for all to see, unforunatly most people appear to be totally blind to it , Hey KJ your my man!