Is Farang an f word?

[MICHAI]

To Answer of your question, the Mun Farang is "Potatoes"it's favorite bites of the Foreigner,my opinion because the causeasian people perception,foreigner are stranger for them"khun tang dao"it's meant like the human from another planet,The Village people common said these potatoes Maun-Farang, just like Khmere People& Laos&Thai !I've been to E-san 9 yrs ago, the fruit in English GUAVA they called "TRABEK"by an old woman it's mean BROKEN!!!,When i was 5yrs old this fruit was grew just right infront of my front door stair.
The Idian People was spread their civilization through out the mainland S.E.A country, even in some country close to China such as Tibet, Vietnam,and Champa(now under rule by Vietnam),..etc.MAHAPIRATA, derived from the Indian narative by the Khmere extreme, and thailand today called Ramkearn,we can see on the base relieves of Angkor Wat,Sim Reap Cambodia!!The Indian civilization was very much absorbed by People on the mainland!I don't think they're from what&Where originated,but i do believe that Poeple have Soul and Spirit cause by deity(God)comes to lives.In Philipin i don't have any idea they also causeasian people too.because their culture have very much influenced by Spianish,in the early of twenty century many countries is S.E.A was under the colonists of European, except Thailand was just the path routine for the European Eplored the Colony in Indochine(Vietnam,Laos,kampuchea).

[drake]

To Answer of your question, the Mun Farang is "Potatoes"it's favorite bites of the Foreigner,my opinion because the causeasian people perception,foreigner are stranger for them"khun tang dao"it's meant like the human from another planet,The Village people common said these potatoes Maun-Farang, just like Khmere People& Laos&Thai !I've been to E-san 9 yrs ago, the fruit in English GUAVA they called "TRABEK"by an old woman it's mean BROKEN!!!,When i was 5yrs old this fruit was grew just right infront of my front door stair.

Sorry, bro.
Would love to carry on a discussion but I can't make head nor tails out of your randomly conjugated factoids.

[wilko]

I don't think it is a matter of whether you are personally offended by the word, I would suggest that it is in essence a racist term. Many people may not realise it or don't care, but that doesn't change it's underlying meaning.
I think in many ways it's comparable to the US usage of the word "Negro" up until the 50s or 60s where some people thought it was a polite term, but now the use of such racist terms in English are regarded as unacceptable.

One would think (or hope) that as time progresses the word farang will gradually fall out of use as such racist issues are tackled in Thailand

[wilko]

PS - to save me reading through 20 or so pages, has there been a definitive answer to the origins of "farang" usage in Thai?

[drake]

I don't think it is a matter of whether you are personally offended by the word, I would suggest that it is in essence a racist term. Many people may not realise it or don't care, but that doesn't change it's underlying meaning.
I think in many ways it's comparable to the US usage of the word "Negro" up until the 50s or 60s where some people thought it was a polite term, but now the use of such racist terms in English are regarded as unacceptable.

One would think (or hope) that as time progresses the word farang will gradually fall out of use as such racist issues are tackled in Thailand

Wilko, the correct slur for white people is Pueak (taro).
I doubt if any fools who had been protesting the F word even have a slightest clue about Pueak.
This entire thing about Farang was instigated by some ignorant tourist who took objection to something they haven't a clue about and it turned in to a global myth, now all the ill informed wilting violets are up in arms and demanding that an entire nation changes it's culture to suit their politically korrect neuroses.

PS - to save me reading through 20 or so pages, has there been a definitive answer to the origins of "farang" usage in Thai?

Perhaps you really should have read the 20 or so pages before diving in head first and start calling a culture racist.

By tradition, it's accepted by most Thais that Farang was perverted from français but it's been 400 years since the first Frenchman showed up in the region (on a Portuguese ship) so there is no actual record.
The Portuguese, OTOH, had their own designated reference by then as Portugate.
Many FOREIGN know it all experts vehemently insists that it's perverted from the Persian word 'Ferengi' but that reference is mostly unknown by the Thais even though they had been trading with the Persians since the 17th century.
This Ferengi reference, oddly enough, was unheard of before the existence of STNG

[wilko]

Firstly I'm not implying that Thai culture is any more or less racist than any other culture.

In English and most languages there are many words to describe foreigners and often they have a racist nature. As "farang" is used in general to describe "westerners" it must have a racist element to it.

as I said in reference to the word "negro" - it is used by those who see no harm in the word - however as it perpetuates a racial stereotype, I'd suggest that whilst the intention is not necessarily derogatory, it does perhaps naively, perpetuate a racist perception.


As for the origins -surely it has to be born in mind that both farenghi and it's derivatives AND Francais come from the same root. So to understand the origins of the Thai word one needs to know when the word came into use. The numbers of French people is really a red herring it is whether or not the word was taken up around then or came from previous encounters with the Persians, Indians etc. ......

[jaycottrell74]

Im confused !!!!! you say "In English and most languages there are many words to describe foreigners and often they have a racist nature. As "farang" is used in general to describe "westerners" it must have a racist element to it."

Why MUST it ? the problem you are thinking about may only exist with people who think like yourself. Until i read this garbage i was completely unaware that it MUST have a racist nature to it .

and then you go on to make a comparison to using such words "it does perhaps naively, perpetuate a racist perception."

you are correct though , the continual use of the word "farang " does perpetuate what the MAJORITY of people deem the word to mean which is "Foreigner" with no underlying crap.

Its how you say a word is what can make it sound or mean something different , so you should stop trying to perpetuate what you think as opposed to how it affects the majority of people geees!

[jaycottrell74]

yeah dude , i get what you are trying to say but.....

youre gettin a bit out there

stop all your big words and answer me simply

do you think the word "farang " in general means foreigner ?

[wilko]

The question is firstly was "is Farang an "f' word?" - I'm sure you understand the underlying significance of the question.

In answer to YOUR question
"do you think the word "farang " in general means foreigner ?" - no I don't - it means "WESTERNER" which is a racial stereotype

[jaycottrell74]

i was simply saying what i believe

was a constructed arguement

dont get personal dude thats pretty lame


chill bro