Preah Vihea issues

[curiosity]

To you guys ...we thai know we really have politics problem here, but in the same time I also think it's also something in cambodia too...you read news from your country of course they said thai start first and here we know as cambodia start first..so we don't know the truth

but to be honest last sunday it was really busy night here if thai start bomb first impossible that they will let people back to the villages like that...many had accident while run away from bomb...but i can understand that because i live far from border more than them i can feel it.....and don't want it happen again

Yeah I totally agree with you, Thaigirl. No one wants that to happen. We are just normal citizens and usually we are the victims of politics. Like you said, we do not know who fired first. Each side just keeps claiming differently. So why not let the UN set a buffer zone there? Do you know why? I don't understand your politics, seriously and I think many of you don't understand either. You always claim that you are right and Cambodia claims it is right too. So let someone jump in and give us all a fair decision. It is useless to speak from Bangkok or on the protesting stage in the middle of Bangkok that the 4.6 Km2 belongs to you. Just do it. Let's use the map. Let's use the UN. Cambodia already started its many steps for UN. How about Thailand? When will be Thai first step? What do you think? Why and why? If thai government dare not go to the UN, then stop speaking nonsense by claiming on the land anymore cause it won't solve a little thing. Good government doesn't do nonsense like that.

[khmergirl]

To Thaigirl,

At least you deeply know that Thai is invading Cambodia, right?

[susiQ]

Ladies, I'm pretty darn sure that this is a fight over a historical temple. You're talking like an invasion the entire country. Let's try not to blow it out of proportion yet. See how the government will solve this problem while the whole world is watching. They'd better know what they're doing because this could get ugly.

[vac]

To Everybody ...
they are all talking of the year 2000 memorandum of understanding. Any of you know who signed it ? I mean not which governement was in power at the time, but who actually signed the agreement with the cambodian counterpart ?

[rabbit]

To Thai people, Last Sunday night Feb 06, you ask your commander Mr. Tawatchai on his sent SMS to Cambodian leader, said " There are 3 rockets were come to Cambodia side by his soldier's mistake " What will you think on your commander.

[keo_svarak]

it happened because your PM ABhisit ambition to take over Phreah Vihear and turmoil political in thai. if your country ,assemly review and adapt JBC document. kind of this problem will nerver happen.

If you guys know landscape about the disputed area i think it's hardly to avoid in case cambodia soldiers are there just the same why cambodia soldiers bomb at thai people houses and farms, schools etc so i think it's normal that thai troop had to bomb back.. and not a few had to leave home because of fighting ..the truth is really a lot now...cambodia just have temple there and no people but in thailand lots of people live and never thought that cambodia will bomb at where people live...

i don't say it because i read from news or from TV i say it from the truth because i am live here ...now everything seem quiet but nobody knows when will happen again

[zheng]

Preah Vihear is a Khmer temple dedicated to Hindu. It is not Hindu temple. The art is really khmer art. Before Cambodia was Hindu before turning to Buddhism. Hope this clear.

[anti_troll]

Let's be terribly clear on the subject of Preah Vihea.
Firstly it is not a Buddhist temple, it is a Hindu temple and neither country is Hindu. Secondly, the International Court of Justice has found in favour of Cambodia, and Thailand did not appeal that decision, even though they were entitled to at the time. Thirdly Preah Vihea has only historic value to academics, not tourists or worshipers. Finally the Hindu temple has been left in a state of ruin for years with both Cambodia and Thailand to blame and blaming each other.
If the joint boundary committee's documents are tabled in the UN at the behest of the UN Security Council, then and only then, will outsiders be able to make an informed judgement and the rhetoric from both sides put to rest.

Regardless of what religion the temple is belonged, it doesn't mean Thailand has the right to claim it since it's legitimately situated, belonged, built by Cambodian.

There is a China town in Bangkok, does that mean that part of Bangkok belong to China? No....

[vladimir]

To Everybody ...
they are all talking of the year 2000 memorandum of understanding. Any of you know who signed it ? I mean not which governement was in power at the time, but who actually signed the agreement with the cambodian counterpart ?

vac, it was signed by the Thai deputy minister of foreign affairs, M.R. Sukhumbhand Paribatra. I think he was Democrat. You can read the 200 MoU document here: http://sokheounpang.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/mou-2000-eng.pdf

[zheng]

I don't want to make issue hot. But the fact is fact and history is history. I dont know whether it is hard for some Thai to accept that PVH is the Khmer temple. I think it could be the issue of ownership claiming. If I am not wrong, the sanctuary is dedicated to Shiva, the Hindu God. It was built by Khmer kings under the rule of the ////// Jasovarman I (889-910 AD) and completed during the rule of one of his successors, ////// Suryavarman II (1113-1145).

The fact that PVH is a Khmer sanctuary and not a “Hindu monument” has been extensively acknowledged by most experts in Khmer architecture including in such books published in Thailand by Thai authors like Professor S. Siribhadra of Silpakorn University in Bangkok in 1992, Dr. Dhida Saraya in 1994 and by the Italian author Vittorio Roveda in 2000.

I spoke with many khmers/cambodians, those I spoke to never deny that their arts/cultures are influenced by Indian. As we can see the flow of Hinduism and Buddhism from India. But, not the whole things Indian. They have developed it into Khmer arts. Now you can see in many form of art/culture/dances, the two are different.

But I think some thais have different points of view re their cultures, tradition, etc.