Clouding the Issue

Clouding the Issue

Postby Ink on Mon Aug 08, 2011 2:48 pm

The fact is the Dem lead government sent armed troops in to disperse a protest with a protocol allowing for the use of deadly weapons. The key argument that has been repeated is the existence of the men in black left them with no choice but to send in armed soldiers with orders to fire live rounds. For this argument to be credible there is a need for strong evidence that the number of the men in black is significant in proportion to the number of the protesters. There is also a need for strong evidence that they were systematically related to the point that it was impossible to use one measure to deal with the men in black and another to deal with the protesters.

Another fact is there were thousands of strong evidence and 92 very strong evidence the soldiers that were sent in and allowed to use deadly weapons against the protesters "did not" make a distinction between the men in black and the protesters.

Everything else is attempts at clouding the issue..
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Re: Clouding the Issue

Postby surinfarm on Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:15 pm

It reads as if you are expecting some sort of closure surrounding these affairs. Do you truly imagine that there will be any such truths revealed in the coming future, or anything resembling a finality, less prosecution?

Look at this country's history of blatant civilian massacres and the subsequent blinded sweeping under the rug posturing that perpetuates itself.

The 2010 versions have been picked-apart, debated, and discussed from every circle and yet it leaves us empty - most of this ongoing chat usually remains historically vacant as to past deeds.

Same as it ever was.
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Re: Clouding the Issue

Postby Ink on Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:53 am

If it's not closure that is expected, I would not expect "less" than what has been handed to the public in the past in this type of issues. In fact, I see it as my duty as a citizen to demand and expect more from the government where the rights of the people is concern.
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Re: Clouding the Issue

Postby wilko on Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:20 am

Abhisit had a long time to set up a more democratic Thaiand, but instead, together with the army he chose to go down the route of suppression.

Now Thailand reaps the benefits if this with yet another government with highly dubious democratic credentials.

In a more ordered democratic country I would think that K. Abhisit would be facing charges concerning the killing of armed and unarmed civilians.

It is very sad too that the Thai armed forces repeatedly see their main enemy as sections of its own people.

Given the rekindled interest in "government' by the army and the nature of the new elected government I can't see "closure" on many if any of the outstanding issues......just repeated irrelevant and protracted legal battles that achieve nothing.
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Re: Clouding the Issue

Postby namrepus on Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:52 am

In fact, I see it as my duty as a citizen to demand and expect more from the government where the rights of the people is concern.
- Ink

Don't you also see it as your right and duty to begin asking what the heck yingluck and her lackeys are doing over there at FROC?
Why are there always contrary and contradictory announcements being made daily?
Why is the distribution of donations being handled solely by red MPs and supporters?
Why are donations going to red districts as a priority? To those districts that show or display a red flag?
Why are FROC volunteers told to wear red when they go out to the countryside?
Why are red MPs putting their names onto donated supplies?
Why are red MPs leading thugs to destroy water barriers?
Why are armed gunmen not allowing Bangkok city workers to repair water barriers and open water gates?
Why after invoking extraordinary powers, does yingluck not coordinate efforts and allow Bangkok to also provide updates to its citizenry?
Why after three months does yingluck, just recently bringing in experts to help and provide advice?
What happened to madam pm and hr party's much vaunted reconciliation policy?
Where are the rights of those not red?

As a Thai citizen; I do demand and expect more from this government where the rights, safety, and well-being of all the Thai people are concerned!

To quote you: "Everything else is attempts at clouding the issue."
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Re: Clouding the Issue

Postby clarkkent on Wed Nov 09, 2011 1:33 pm

namrepus:
As a Thai citizen; I do demand and expect more from this government where the rights, safety, and well-being of all the Thai people are concerned!

I echo your words! :cheers:
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Re: Clouding the Issue

Postby len on Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:36 pm

Namrepus alias Superman and Clarkkent. Do I detect a one in the same comment person? Don't mean to cloud the issue! What is the issue??

Louise Lane

PS Anyone seen Superman lately? He hasn't made any of his stronger than kryptonite postings ?
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Re: Clouding the Issue

Postby clarkkent on Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:51 pm

len wrote:Namrepus alias Superman and Clarkkent. Do I detect a one in the same comment person? Don't mean to cloud the issue! What is the issue??

Louise Lane

PS Anyone seen Superman lately? He hasn't made any of his stronger than kryptonite postings ?

Please keep my squeeze 'Lois Lane' out of this. Wouldn't want to avoid the issue of clouding the issue, by changing the issue of the issue which is "Clouding the Issue".

Let's not cloud the issue -
The fact is that a red MP; Karun Hosakul led a mob of people to tear down a water barrier.
The fact is that, as a supposed representative of the people who has to set a moral and virtuous example a UDD MP has given other mobs, the mob given right to destroy floodways and negotiate with the government.
The fact is that other red MPs and supporters have put their names and reserved public donations to be given in their names to their own constituents as a priority.
The fact is that thaksin name is all over (publically donated)aid packages and on trucks delivering them.
The fact is that there is a lack of leadership and capability in this present government.

How's that for a krytonian posting. Let namrepus better it if he can!
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