Thailand and the New World Order.

Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Yuri_Velasquez on Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:18 pm

Thailand and the New World Order.

This post has been prompted by Chris-TH and Veto. At least there are some that REALLY know what is going on. I replied to their posts on Mah-Wat-T’s Democrazy blog. He deleted my posts. The less said about Mah-Wat-T the better. He is probably part of the System. Sorry Mah-Wat-T, it appears that you are not the culprit. I was merely replying to comments by Veto and Chris-TH. Strewth, give me strength !

I first noticed the New World Order in Thailand when the Thai flag was changed from a sacred white elephant on a red background to the red, white and blue of the tricolour, I am not sure of the date, late 1930’s I think ?. The same three colours, for Britain, France, USA and Russia. Red lodge, white lodge and blue lodge, all quite Masonic. The Blue Lodge seems most active in Thailand.

Quite a few scream ‘CONSPIRACY’ when one talks about such a subject. A nice way to divert attention towards the lunatic fringe.

That the Global future is 1984 Orwellian, there can be no doubt. Modern surveillance technology has seen to that. Computers monitor just about anything and everything. Great for the elites but not so good for ordinary people, with whom I count myself.

I have added the post below that I mistakenly thought Mah-Wat-T deleted, it is relevant to my argument.
I usually enjoy debates with Mah-Wat-T.

I now believe that the Silent Coup of 2008, was backed by the C.I.A. A puppet Government, backed by the military, a police state, keeping the super rich elites in power. Echoes of South America. Since the Viet-Nam War the Americans have had a strong presence in Thailand. The runway at U-Tapao is designed to take B-52’s. It is not a country that want to lose grip on. If that means the elite, the military and no democracy, fine. The country is controlled by people they approve of and can influence. Cobra Gold is likely to run in May again this year.

Where does this put Thailand in the Global New Order ? Just another brick in the wall. The populace will stay ‘dumbed-down’ and the LM laws will create a climate of fear where people are encouraged to report on each other. Joe Stalin would have approved, because that is the way he controlled the Soviet Union. Children reporting their parents, neighbours doing the same to each other, all very 1984. I suggest you read the book, re-read it if you have read it already.

The same system is being subtlety introduced in the UK. Hounslow is a town near Heathrow Airport. All along the High Street are illuminated signs proclaiming Homophobia is a crime: Report it ! Then there is a large sign with a bunch of the gay fraternity claiming: We had the courage to report Homophobia. How much does all this cost ? Yet the effective words are; Report it ! They want the snitch system to begin.
When I first saw the sign, I thought it was an advertisement for a Pop-Group’s latest single. Then somebody told me about that council’s policies.

Just like Stalin’s Soviet Union, report somebody.

Thailand? I foresee adverts encouraging people to report Lese Majeste.

A climate of fear, a climate of control. That is the New World Order.

Are we approaching Chapter 13 v 15 in Revelation ?

I will be interested to read the views of people who are aware of the New World Order ?

The post I mistakenly thought 'Mah-Wat-T' deleted:-


The UK is heading for George Orwell's 1984 scenario of a Big Brother surveillance society. Now is the time to read his book again. Just see how accurate he is ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

Thailand cannot be far behind ?

London street photographer is arrested for terrorism -


A photographer who spent his whole life photographing and painting around his home neighbourhood of Elephant and Castle in London was arrested under anti-terror laws and jailed, his DNA and fingerprints taken. He was released after five hours, once his Member of Parliament intervened. Under current policies, his DNA will remain on file forever — though the EU has ordered Britain to cease this practice.

With a studio near the 1960s shopping centre at the heart of this area in south London, he is a familiar figure and is regularly seen snapping and sketching the people and buildings around his home – currently the site of Europe’s largest regeneration project. But to the police officers who arrested him last week his photographing of the old HMSO print works close to the local police station posed an unacceptable security risk.

“The car skidded to a halt like something out of Starsky & Hutch and this officer jumped out very dramatically and said ‘what are you doing?’ I told him I was photographing the building and he said he was going to search me under the Anti-Terrorism Act,” he recalled.
http://www.patb-photography.co.uk/1249/london-streetphotographer-arrested-for-terrorism/

Then the ex-MI5 Chief Stella Rimmington speaks out !
Spy chief: We risk a police state


Dame Stella Rimington, the former head of MI5, has warned that the fear of terrorism is being exploited by the Government to erode civil liberties and risks creating a police state.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/4643415/Spy-chief-We-risk-a-police-state.html
Government plans travel database
The government is compiling a database to track and store the international travel records of millions of Britons.

Computerised records of all 250 million journeys made by individuals in and out of the UK each year will be kept for up to 10 years.

The government says the database is essential in the fight against crime, illegal immigration and terrorism.

But opposition MPs and privacy campaigners fear it is a significant step towards a surveillance society.

The intelligence centre will store names, addresses, telephone numbers, seat reservations, travel itineraries and credit card details of travellers.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7877182.stm

There is a bit of a debate going on here !:-
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread435103/pg1


Global Big Brother just gets closer and closer. In the UK and Thailand !
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby stilljustbrowsing on Wed Feb 18, 2009 11:36 pm

George Orwell, 1984. Alternatively, look at the "brotherhood of pigs" Animal farm perhaps? (remember, we are all equal) :evil: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Veto on Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:45 am

Thanks for this topic, but webmaster may move it if not related to Thai politics.
It is our job as bloggers(not paid by Thaksin) to keep this topic alive and well and expose the agenda of the new world order and their plans to collapse all the world's currencies and come in as the saviors.
This agenda has been planned months and years in advance. World oil prices were ran up to almost $150/barrel in July 08, then collapsed to $34/barrel today. Lindsey Williams was the ONLY person warning the world of elites agenda in regards to oil.
Others include alex jones...jeff rense TALK SHOWS and all the guests the have on daily.
In regards to Thailand and Thai politics....current regime seems more closely tied to NWO agenda and keeping order during potential crisis. Thaksin ousted is much like Bush in America ousted. Change but agenda still the same in regards to NWO
I posted a link to Bloomberg of Thailand allowing foreign banks coming in over the next few weeks and month with little or no restrictions as imposed by Thai law on foreign corporations. THIS IS MAJOR
What I don't understand is the new restrictions on foreigners and visas?
Is this to keep out foreigners or to track them easier? I surely doesn't help the economy.
Thai politicians are only bribed to comply. Matters little who is in power. Recently there was a picture on David Rockefeller in Hua Hin meeting with \\ ////. Politicians have no real power in Thailand. That's why I never understand why all the humbug of who is ruling. It's all about the money, and who gets the most bribes.......
Not about the people, thai economy, tourists, foreigners, or anything else.
In thailand the people are good, but politicians play them against each other to appear to be saviors. It's so evil that only information can resolve this.
Keep up the message. :cheers:
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Veto on Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:18 am

What Thailand needs to be aware of is offshore foreign corporations coming in. Via stimulus packages offered, Thailand becomes a debtor nation. This was on Bloomberg, but not in Thai news. I posted the link in:Thailand for Sale? listed in Thai Business topics.
I read about why are politicians being bribed with 2000Bt or 3 day wknds? It's to turn a blind eye to this foreign ownership coming in. Through borrowed fiat money, (that will never be paid back) Thailand is seduced into these foreign corporations coming in, buying up hard assets, toll roads, bridges, communications, factories for pennies on the baht.
Having Thaksin or Abhisit as PM makes little difference..except Thaksin could not keep law and order. He did take his lions' share of the bribes from these off shore corporations, but he wasn't their man. No voodoonomics will bring him back.
Nations are being bankrupted worldwide...to get nations to BEG for these offshore banksters to be their saviors.
Dubai is almost a ghost town due to construction collapse and oil price collapse. Workers abdoning their vehicles by the thousands at the airport to evade payments and going to jail for lack of payback on their loans.
Next is central and eastern Europe going down. Germany won't be able to help them, nor the IMF. World oil prices keeping tax revenues down in all nations. Besides economies imploding, jobs imploding, currencies imploding, NO STIMULUS WILL SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. It only incurs more debt to the banksters. Debt creates a faster implosion worldwide.
Best advice is to stay informed thru the web. Lindsey Willaims had an up-to-date talk today on Alex Jones. Well worth listening to. :cheers:
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby villager on Thu Feb 19, 2009 9:36 am

Veto wrote:What Thailand needs to be aware of is offshore foreign corporations coming in. Via stimulus packages offered, Thailand becomes a debtor nation. This was on Bloomberg, but not in Thai news. I posted the link in:Thailand for Sale? listed in Thai Business topics.
I read about why are politicians being bribed with 2000Bt or 3 day wknds? It's to turn a blind eye to this foreign ownership coming in. Through borrowed fiat money, (that will never be paid back) Thailand is seduced into these foreign corporations coming in, buying up hard assets, toll roads, bridges, communications, factories for pennies on the baht.
Having Thaksin or Abhisit as PM makes little difference..except Thaksin could not keep law and order. He did take his lions' share of the bribes from these off shore corporations, but he wasn't their man. No voodoonomics will bring him back.
Nations are being bankrupted worldwide...to get nations to BEG for these offshore banksters to be their saviors.
Dubai is almost a ghost town due to construction collapse and oil price collapse. Workers abdoning their vehicles by the thousands at the airport to evade payments and going to jail for lack of payback on their loans.
Next is central and eastern Europe going down. Germany won't be able to help them, nor the IMF. World oil prices keeping tax revenues down in all nations. Besides economies imploding, jobs imploding, currencies imploding, NO STIMULUS WILL SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS. It only incurs more debt to the banksters. Debt creates a faster implosion worldwide.
Best advice is to stay informed thru the web. Lindsey Willaims had an up-to-date talk today on Alex Jones. Well worth listening to. :cheers:

Yeah Veto, and when Thailand hits the skids big time,( which it surely will) ,it will be solely the fault of the PAD,Abhi, and the Dems, and nothing to do whatsoever with the global recession.
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Veto on Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:01 am

villager wrote:Yeah Veto, and when Thailand hits the skids big time,( which it surely will) ,it will be solely the fault of the PAD,Abhi, and the Dems, and nothing to do whatsoever with the global recession.

It's not a blame game being played here. If Thaksin at the helm, we all KNOW the corruption wouldn't stop. The question is: who would keep law and order the best? Who is the military loyal to? A coup would happen again if Abhisit rejected the NWO dominance, and kicked out the foreign banksters and their money. Playing two sides against each other is EXACTLY what the NWO wants. Anything to divert attention from their agenda. They (NWO) want the people mad at each other to play savior. PLEASE don't be fooled.
It could be added not only money control is their agenda. Google: project blue beam, or google fema camps, just to name a few. :cheers:
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Chris-TH on Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:02 pm

Yuri,

I dont agree with all these conspiracy theories, carried out by single agencies. But I would like to make a general statement anyway.

From a World point of view, it is undesirable that Thailand develops any further!! The attempt to create/expand the inner market will not bring any benefits to the World community, on the contrary. It would shift the focus to locally produced products and reduce the insignificat market for foreing products further.
It would cause a change in the agro sector, e.g., swithching from food crops to bio-fuel crops, and other products that are of no use to the outside world. Ultimately Thailand could end up with, not a sufficency economy, but a self-sufficient economy!!

I remember the "warning" from the UN (FAO) that clearly stated that "Thailand has a responsibillity towards the World to produce sufficient and inexpensive food for export". (The Thai food export feeds about 200M people yearly). They (FAO) compared it with the responsibillity of the oil producing countries to provide energy to the world market.

I dont think that the World have any interest in reviving the Thai Manufacturing export sector (including car production). They need the jobs themselves now and that is more important than lower production prices!!! And anyway, China is taking over that role (cheap production).

So it is the best interest of the World to send the production workers home to the farms and have them increase production, while keeping them in the low earning class.

I wonder if that is the conditions for the loans that the Gov are trying to raise??
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Veto on Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:25 pm

Chris-TH wrote:Yuri,

I dont agree with all these conspiracy theories, carried out by single agencies. But I would like to make a general statement anyway.

From a World point of view, it is undesirable that Thailand develops any further!! The attempt to create/expand the inner market will not bring any benefits to the World community, on the contrary. It would shift the focus to locally produced products and reduce the insignificat market for foreing products further.
It would cause a change in the agro sector, e.g., swithching from food crops to bio-fuel crops, and other products that are of no use to the outside world. Ultimately Thailand could end up with, not a sufficency economy, but a self-sufficient economy!!

I remember the "warning" from the UN (FAO) that clearly stated that "Thailand has a responsibillity towards the World to produce sufficient and inexpensive food for export". (The Thai food export feeds about 200M people yearly). They (FAO) compared it with the responsibillity of the oil producing countries to provide energy to the world market

I dont think that the World have any interest in reviving the Thai Manufacturing export sector (including car production). They need the jobs themselves now and that is more important than lower production prices!!! And anyway, China is taking over that role (cheap production).

So it is the best interest of the World to send the production workers home to the farms and have them increase production, while keeping them in the low earning class.

I wonder if that is the conditions for the loans that the Gov are trying to raise??

RE: What you're suggesting for Thailand seems highly plausible...especially with new visa restrictions on foreigners keeping more away. Stimulus loans designed to implode the baht thru debt. Potential for world food riots high as economies collapse. Southeast asia has historically been a food bread basket, not a producer of motor cars or industry. Too bad oil is imported, based on dollars, but at least it's cheap. My experience in Issan is there's not enough water for large scale commercial food production. I also wonder about the new banned herbs coming at this time and no one in the gov't looking at this as nothing but NWO agenda. No one wants to oppose them...either they're bribed, blackmailed, or taken out.
India has an interesting story of growing cotton with GMO terminator seeds. They are so bad, thousands of farmers committed suicide, and the cotton is so bad it produces horrific skin conditions on the pickers and users.Hopefully Thailand kept aware to avoid the GMO products. :cheers:
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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Yuri_Velasquez on Thu Feb 19, 2009 6:52 pm

A NWO mantra is Thesis-Antithesis-Synthesis.

Thailand has now been split into Yellows and Reds.

Then there is Conditionality = You get your loan on condition you comply with a menu of things we(NWO) want you to do.

And Interdependency = You are dependent on the goods and services of an adjacent country and vice versa.

Hong Kong is apparently becoming a Cashless Society. You swipe your electronic card to pay for things. This will eventually become the RFID chip. It also means that the electonic money can be switched off if you become a naughty boy !

I know many people put these subjects into the category of Conspiracies, but I have studied the subject for 15+ years and although I sometimes have my own internal debate about Cock-up versus Conspiracy. Something always happens that makes me notice the World Government NWO/Conspiracy direction.

Hubert Neiss the World banker was sniffing around Thailand ten years ago.
http://www.imf.org/external/np/pdr/cond/2001/eng/sem/071001hn.htm

I believed that the NWO would cause Thailand to have a conflict with a neighbour, as a lever to keep them in line, should they consider going their own way.

I find Texe Marrs a good source of information, not that I agree with all of it. I tend to cross reference various sources of information.
http://www.texemarrs.com/

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Re: Thailand and the New World Order.

Postby Non Aligned Bangkok on Thu Feb 19, 2009 7:17 pm

Things change. Get used to it. :o :o
Cameras on Thai roads forcing drivers to actually stop at traffic lights? What a great idea. :lol: :lol:
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