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Historian Charnvit Kasetsiri explains why he believes changing the country's name back to Siam will promote unity and reconciliation.

  • Published: 17/05/2009 at 12:00 AM
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Prominent historian Charnvit Kasetsiri recently lodged a petition with Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva and the reconciliation and political reform committee calling for the country's name to be changed from Thailand back to Siam.


NATIONAL SYMBOL: The original flag of Siam, featuring a white elephant.

The former rector of Thammasat University and founder of its Southeast Asia Studies Project said the charter should be amended from the "Constitution of the Kingdom of Thailand" to read either the "Constitution of the Kingdom of Siam" or the "Constitution of Siam", in order to promote "unity", "harmony" and "reconciliation".

The academic said renaming the country would be the first step to reconciling political and social ills in a country of 60 million people which included more than 50 ethnic groups.

Thailand as a nation, according to the historian, had gradually adopted "ultra-nationalism" in past decades which might be replicated in the present day and beyond. Political turmoil might prevail and wreak havoc on the country where people were not only divided by opposing political views, but by ethnic discrimination.

Renaming the country Siam could pave a stepping stone for the long-awaited solutions to the country's deeply rooted problems, said the academic.


SEAFARERS’ GUIDE: An old map showing the country known as Siam.

Q: Everybody knows this country had been called Siam since the Ayutthaya era. Why was it renamed as Thailand 70 years ago?

A: That was in 1939, the year that World War Two started. The world had cringed at the rise of Adolf Hitler's nazism in Germany and fascism in Italy and Japan. In this country, the military-led government of then-premier Field Marshal Phibulsongkhram (Por) had been considerably influenced by ultra-nationalism which only imitated the powerful nazism and fascism overseas. Siam was renamed as Thailand on the spur of the moment when Field Marshal Por's government was evidently taking sides with the Axis forces during the early years of World War Two.

The ultra-nationalism in Europe and Japan apparently prompted Field Marshal Por's government to take for granted that this country needed some kind of military authoritarianism in times of war. Luang Vichit Vathakarn, then head of the Fine Arts Department, coined the new name for the country on the basis of ethnicity, undoubtedly because the Thai race was the ruling class of a mixed-up society.

The petition is primarily aimed to promote harmony and reconciliation in the country where more than 50 ethnic groups with their distinctive languages reside, including Thai, Yuan, Lao, Lue, Malayu, Mon, Khmer, Teochiu, Cantonese, Hokkien, Hainan, Hakka, Cham, Sakai, Tamil, Pathan, Persian, Arab, Phuan, Tai Yai, Phu Tai, Yong, Hmong, Karen, Museur and farang, etc.


TIME FOR A CHANGE: Historian Charnvit Kasetsiri.

Not until Siam was renamed as Thailand had some people in this country looked down upon others with racial or ethnic biases. In the old Siam, the people had co-existed and spontaneously welcomed diversities which had prevailed in all parts of the country. Many Bangkokians, who may regard themselves as mainstream descents of the Thai race, had a penchant for ridiculing those of Lao origins living in the Isan (northeastern) region.

Ethnically speaking, Muslim villagers living in the southernmost region of the country are not Thais, but of Malay descent. Nevertheless, they were compelled to call themselves Thai purely for territorial integrity reasons.

Q: What was wrong with the name Siam, after all?

A: The government at that time believed Siam was a place where inhabitants were a mixed-up bunch of different ethnic groups who might not have been governed very easily in times of war. They feared the country might have disintegrated.

Ethnically speaking, nothing was wrong with "Siam", but the word did not tell who was the ruler over here. That is nonsense. By the way, the word "Thai" denotes the race, not the country.

Q: Why should Siam be considered a better name than Thailand?

A: "Siam" derives from the archaic word "sam", which means arable land. In Khmer and Mon, that is "siem", as in Siem Reap. In Burmese, that is "shan", as in Shan State, and in Japanese, that is "shamuro".

Astrologically speaking, the initial "s" as in Siam, is considered more auspicious for the country than the initial "th", as in Thailand, which sounds like "Taiwan" to Westerners.

Q: In business, the word Siam is not considered very fortunate. Most businessmen would pick "Thai" instead of "Siam" if they decided to add either word to their corporate names.

A: That is not quite correct. What about Siam Paragon, Siam Square, Siam Commercial Bank and Siam Cement? All those firms were known to be very prosperous, though people superstitiously circumvented this by saying "Thai Phanich" to refer to the bank or "Poon Yai" to refer to the cement firm in Thai.

Q: How could the renaming of the country possibly help address today's polarized politics in which, for instance, people are divided into "yellow" and "red"?

A: Political problems can by no means be resolved just by renaming the country. But such things could be a stepping stone toward political reconciliation. It could pave way for peaceful co-existence and wholehearted recognition of social diversities among all people of this country.

Q: Would the people eventually accept such changes to the country's name?

A: Some people would never care and ask "what difference does it make? A country is a country, no matter what name". They would not be able to tell Siam from Thailand, given 70 years of having been accustomed to the latter name.

It might take a long time for them to learn and understand history as well as to go for the first, easy step toward national harmony and reconciliation.

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Writer: Surasak Tumcharoen

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  • yeats

    Discussion 54 : 18/05/2009 at 10:38 PM54

    A very thinly disguised veil to drag Thailand bacck to the olden days - the elites and army really need to stop manipulating politics and let democracy take its course.

    Chanvit Kasetsiri, do not take the people of this country for mere idiots and fools who cannot se through your real intentions!

  • Somchai Dusselfdorf, Jr.

    Discussion 53 : 18/05/2009 at 07:55 PM53

    I have a more palatable idea for the elitist
    run gov't. How about keep the name Thailand, but let Issaan secede (Isaanland?) and become it's own country. Greedy Bangkok Thais can then exploit the Isaan workers even more, since they will now be illegals in "Thailand". Additionally, the gov't could set up a deportation program, where drunken sex tourists are banished to Isaanland, where their wives and girlfriends reside anyhow.

  • dara

    Discussion 52 : 18/05/2009 at 08:22 AM52

    natinalism is not a game for people to play....the world does not see such motive a solution...be part of the world's voice. Thai or siam is too much about themselves in the past and now.

  • manit

    Discussion 51 : 17/05/2009 at 11:45 PM51

    Prof.Charnvit's opinion is none sense and useless.You want to solve the problems in Thailand,you must identify the root of the problem.You cannot only paint new color or wear the new cloth or new name and think the problem have been solved.People and the country still same old thing.Prof. Charnvit is the former rector of Thammasat university should wake up to see the reality of Thailand economic and social crisis at the present moment.You can influence and organize the good Thai prople to do good for the country without any discriminitation and selfishness.

  • Tommy Westfield

    Discussion 50 : 17/05/2009 at 10:40 PM50

    The professor is right, change the name to Siam! I am an American and I’ll explain why.

    There are 2 reason why Siam is a better name for a country.

    1) The word “Thailand” or “Thai” has a negative image in most American’s minds because they think of Pat Pong and poor teen girls forced into prostitution by the Thai police who own the bordellos and pubs. You can blame Mr. Patpong and the Thai government for allowing Patpong to exist for this long, tarnishing the image of such a great country. The word “Siam” has a much higher quality image. When Americans hear “Siam”, the image they have is of a Royal King such as King Chulalongkorn and all the beautiful culture of old Siam.

    2) Thailand is indeed a mix of different races and cultures so why should it be called Thai-Land when there are other races that have been there for 100s of years? The Thais look down on the Chinese and call them greedy while the Chinese look down on Thai and call them lazy and stupid. Then the Thai look down on the Lao peoples who live in Issan. How can a Lao speaking person who plays the Lao “khene” and listens to Morlam Lao music and eats Lao food such as SomTum and Larb be called a Thai? They are indeed Lao. The Malays from the South (When that part was still part of Malaya) are still Malays who speak Malay so how can you call them a member of the Thai race? And the Chinese who speak this weird dialect called Ta Chiew of Swatow (I never heard of this dialect, it is not popular like Mandarin, Cantonese, Shanghainese, Toisan, Hakka, Fukinese, Hokkien, or Hunanese) will be looked down upon in Hong Kong, & Taiwan, China as being some weird Chinese.

  • moon

    Discussion 49 : 17/05/2009 at 10:05 PM49

    Well, i think is a good if you change the name of Thailand back to Siam now. i was wonder when Issan become they own state and what the bangkokian would call ? Read the Histories carefully peaple. Issan is from Laos , all Lao kids and Issan kids know where they Mom and Pa mother came from . Go to the Northeast they eat Lao Foods and Speak Lao.remember what ever go up they must come down. Go to wat naknone pranom and read the histories of Issan. Kingdom of Siam is good and Also Kingdom of Chaingmia or Issan. may our Thailand be the past. we will have a peace forever. Long live Siam, long live Issan.

  • dd2020

    Discussion 48 : 17/05/2009 at 09:12 PM48

    Let's try... Thai's sound good to go.

    The name had been changed for the reason of extreme nationalism which is not good at all.

    We, today have to change back to the old point and make thing revised, co-existence is the point and will be out next agenda of our country!!


    Go Go ... Siam.

  • CHA

    Discussion 47 : 17/05/2009 at 07:21 PM47

    Siam had always been known as Siam for centuries and then along comes some dictorial Field Marshall with no better agenda and far less brain matter, with nothing better to do than to change the country name.....such a disapointment!
    Siam has more class then Thailand will ever have. Siamese also sounds far more classy than Thai.
    The name should never have been changed in the first place.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Jostein

    Discussion 46 : 17/05/2009 at 07:09 PM46

    Please do that.
    I am a falang and been her for ten years.
    When i talk about Thailand i always use SIAM.
    And my thai friends are very happy when i do That.

    Kind regards

    Boonmee.

    Boonmee is the name that my thai friends has give me.
    And i am very proud about that.

    This is a very old SIAM name thats means lucky every thing etc.

  • cow-pat

    Discussion 45 : 17/05/2009 at 06:45 PM45

    Has no one ever thought about the cost of changing the name? The Govt. is having to borrow huge amounts of money now..... How much more would they need for this?

    Present day Thais, have lived their lives with the name of the country as "Thailand", changing the name isn't going to make them drive their cars or motorcycles better or stop them moaning about the slightest thing.

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