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Deputy PM gets Hun Sen task

  • Published: 21/06/2009 at 12:00 AM
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Deputy Prime Minister Suthep Thaugsuban is to explain Thailand's stance against the unilateral listing of the Preah Vihear temple to Cambodian Premier Hun Sen.

Yesterday's decision by Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva comes after Hun Sen showed regret over the Thai move to reiterate its opposition to the decision by the World Heritage Committee (WHC) and the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation (Unesco) last year on approving the Cambodian application for listing.

Mr Abhisit said he and the Cambodian prime minister had not been in contact since the Thai government decided to make its move on the issue in a cabinet meeting on Tuesday.

Mr Abhisit did not raise the issue in talks with Hun Sen during his visit to Phnom Penh on June 12.


The premier was optimistic that the issue would not lead to a new military conflict between the two countries as efforts were being made to improve bilateral understanding.

Natural Resources and Environment Minister Suwit Khunkitti left for Spain on Thursday leading Thai officials to talks with the WHC and Unesco in Seville, where the committee will start its meeting tomorrow.

He is scheduled to meet with committee chairwoman Maria Jesus San Segundo of Spain prior to its annual meeting, according to Foreign Minister Kasit Piromya.

Mr Suwit would raise Thailand's objection to the unilateral listing of the ancient Hindu temple, he added.

The key message to deliver to the committee would be that Unesco's approval of the listing is not fair to Thailand, said Mr Kasit.

"This is a matter between Thailand and the World Heritage Committee and Unesco, not between Thailand and Cambodia," he said, echoing Mr Suthep's statement made on Friday.

Preah Vihear, which is called Phra Viharn in Thai, was granted to Cambodia in a 1962 International Court of Justice ruling. Thailand and Cambodia claim the land around the temple area.

In the Seville meeting which runs until June 30, the committee will consider requests for the inscription of new sites on Unesco's World Heritage List and examine the state of conservation of sites already on the list.

Thailand is an observer to the meeting of the 21-member WHC.

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  • Khmer American

    Discussion 14 : 22/06/2009 at 06:40 PM14

    Abhisit was educated in Oxford, England. His parents BOUGHT his education. It doesn't mean he is smart. Probably as dumb as an OX!

    Does he really think the UNESCO or the Khmer people scare?

    He is destroying the Thais image in the world community, being sore losers and not shameful of their behavior.

  • simon

    Discussion 13 : 22/06/2009 at 09:28 AM13

    I don't know why most of thai leader are high educated but what they act is just like an uneducated people. As far as i know abhisit was eduacated in a great university in England but he ...... oh poor abhisit

  • News Man

    Discussion 12 : 22/06/2009 at 09:10 AM12

    Dear Please read,
    CASE CONCERNING THE TEMPLE OF PREAH VIHEAR
    (MERITS)
    Judgment of 15 June 1962
    Proceedings in the case concerning the Temple of Preah
    Vihear, between Cambodia and Thailand, were instituted
    on 6 October 1959 by an Application of the Government of
    Cambodia; the Government of Thailand halving raised two
    preliminary objections, the Court, by its Judgment of
    26 May 1961, found that it had jurisdiction.
    In its Judgment on the merits the Court, 'by nine votes to
    k,found that the Temple of Preah Vihear was situated in
    territory under the sovereignty of Cambodia and, in consequence,
    that Thailand was under an obligation to withdraw
    any military or police forces, or other guards or keepers, stationed
    by her at the Temple, or in its vicinity on Cambodian
    territory.
    By seven votes to five, the Court found that Thailand was
    under an obligation to restore to Cambodia any sculptures,
    stelae, fragments of monuments, sandstone model and
    ancient pottery which might, since the date of the occupation
    of the Temple by Thailand in 1954, have been removed from
    the Temple or the Temple area by the Thai au~thorities.
    Judge Tanaka and Judge Morelli appended to the Judgment
    a Joint Declaration. Vice-President Alfaro and Judge
    Sir Gerald Fitzmaurice appended Separate Opinions; Judges
    Moreno Quintana, 'Wellington Koo and Sir Percy Spender
    appended Dissenting Opinions.
    In its Judgment, the Court found that the subject of the dispute
    was sovereignty over the region of the Temple of Preah
    Vihear. This ancient sanctuary, partially in ruins, stood on a
    promontory of the D#anangrekr ange of mountains which constituted
    the boundary between Cambodia and Thailand. The
    dispute had its fons et origo in the boundary settlements made
    in the period 1904-1908 between France, then conducting
    the foreign relations of Indo-China, and Siam. The application
    of the Treaty of 13 February 1904 was, in particular,
    involved. That 'lkeacy established the general character of the
    frontier the exact boundary of which was to be delimited by a
    Fmco-Siamese Mixed Commission.
    Continued on next page
    Summaries of Judgments, Advisory Opinions and Orders of the International Court of Justice
    Not an official document
    In the eastern sector of the Dmgrek range, iin which Preah
    Vihear was situated, the frontier was to follow the watershed
    line. For the purpose of delimiting that frontier, it was
    agreed, at a meeting held on 2 December 1906, that the
    Mixed Commission should travel along the Dangek range
    carrying out all the necessary reconnaissance, and that a survey
    officer of the French section of the Comniission should
    survey the whole of the eastenn part of the range. It had not
    been contested that the Presidents of the French and Siamese
    sections duly made this journey, in the course of which they
    visited the Temple of Preah Vihear. In January-February
    1907, the President of the French section had ieported to his
    Government that the frontier-line had been definitely established.
    It therefore seemed cleix that a frontier had been surveyed
    and fixed, although theire was no record of my decision
    and no reference to the Dangrek region in any minutes of
    the meetings of the Commission after 2 December 1906.
    Moreover, at the time when the Commission might have met
    for the purpose of winding up its work, attention was directed
    towards the conclusion of a further Franco-Si.amese boundary
    treaty, the Treaty of 23 Maxh 1907.
    The final stage of the delimitation was the ]preparation of
    maps. The Siamese Governmc:nt, which did not dispose of
    adequate technical means, had requested that Frenclh officers
    should map the frontier region. These maps wlzre completed
    in the autumn of 1907 by a team of French officers, some of
    whom had been members of the Mixed Conlmission, and
    they were communicated to the Siamese Government in
    1908. Amongst them was a map of the Dangrek range showing
    Preah Vihear on the Cambodian side. It wtls on that map
    (filed as Annex I to its Memorial) that Cambodia had principally
    relied in support of her claim to sovereiignty over the
    Temple. Thailand, on the other hand, had contended that the
    map, not being the work of the Mixed Commissio~ih, ad no
    binding character; that the frontier indicated on1 it was not the
    true watershed line and that tlnie true watersh~d line would
    place the Temple in Thailand; that the map had never been
    accepted by Thailand or, alternatively, that if Thailand had
    accepted it she had done so only because of a mistaken belief
    that the frontier indicated corn:sponded with the watershed
    line.
    The Annex I map was never formally approved by the
    Mixed Commission, which hd ceased to function some
    months before its production. While there could be no reasonable
    doubt that it was basecl on the work of the surveying
    officers in the Dangrek sector, the Court nevertheless concluded
    that, in its inception, it had no binding character. It
    was clear from the record, howc:ver, that the miips were communicated
    to the Siamese Govt:rnment as pqmrting to rep
    resent the outcome of the work of delimitation; since there
    was no reaction on the part of the Siamese authiorities, either
    then or for many years, they must be held to haire acquiesced.
    The maps were moreover ccmunicated to. the Siamese
    members of the Mixed Commission, who said nothing, to the
    Siamese Minister of the Interior, Prince Damrong, who
    thanked the French Minister in Bangkok for them, and to the
    Siamese provincial governors, some of whom knew of Preah
    Vihear. If the Siamese authorities accepted the Annex I map
    without investigation, they could not now plead any error
    vitiating the reality of their consent.
    The Siamese Government and later the Thai Government
    had raised no query about the Annex I map prior to its negotiations
    with Cambodia in Bangkok in 1958. But in 1934-1935
    a survey had established a divergence between the map line
    and the hue line of the watershed, and other rnaps had been
    produced showing the Temple as being in Thailand: Thailand
    had nevertheless continued also to use and indeed to publish
    maps showing Preah Vihear as lying in Cambodia. Moreover,
    in the course of the negotiations for the 1925 and 1937
    Franco-Siamese Treaties, which confirmed the existing frontiers,
    and in 1947 in Washington before the Franco-Siamese
    Conciliation Commission, it would have been natural for
    Thailand to raise the matter: she did not do so. The natural
    inference was that she had accepted the frontier at Preah
    Vihear as it was drawn on the map, irrespective of its correspondence
    with the watershed line. Thailand had stated that
    having been, at all material times, in possession of Preah
    Vihear, she had had no need to raise the matter; she had
    indeed instanced the acts of her administrative authorities on
    the ground as evidence that she had never accepted the
    Annex I line at Preah Vihear. But the Court found it difficult
    to regard such local acts as negativing the consistent attitude
    of the central authorities. Moreover, when in 1930 Prince
    Damrong, on a visit to the Temple, was officially received
    there by the French Resident for the adjoining Cambodian
    province, Siam failed to react.
    From these facts, the court concluded that Thailand had
    accepted the Annex I map. Even if there were any doubt in
    this connection, Thailand was not precluded from asserting
    that she had not accepted it since France and Cambodia had
    relied upon her acceptance and she had for fifty years enjoyed
    such benefits as the Treaty of 1904 has conferred on her. Furthermore,
    the acceptance of the Annex I map caused it to
    enter the treaty settlement; the Parties had at that time
    adopted m interpretation of that settlement which caused the
    map line to prevail over the provisions of the Treaty and, as
    there was no reason to think that the Parties had attached any
    special importance to the line of the watershed as such, as
    compared with the overriding importance of a final regulation
    of their own frontiers, the Court considered that the
    interpretation to be given now would be the same.
    The Court therefore felt bound to pronounce in favour of
    the frontier indicated on the Annex I map in the disputed area
    and it became unnecessary to consider whether the line as
    mapped did in fact correspond to the true watershed line.
    For these reasons, the Court upheld the submissions of
    Cambodia concerning sovereignty over Preah Vihear.

  • Ashsnar

    Discussion 11 : 22/06/2009 at 12:15 AM11

    look siem thugs, unesco is not control by you guy, ok. so, don't try to violate the unesco law too like you people violated the international treaty and the icj verdict! talking with you guys are like talking to the a tree trunk; you people have no conscience to even think about what is right or what is wrong to do when it comes to dealing with cambodia with the preah vihear temple which by the way have always belonged to cambodia, not your thug-like state of thailand, ok! so, stop dreaming already! it's not going to happen although try all you can, we won't budge or yield to your illegal demand on our sovereign and temple. get lost already!

  • Donald Waters

    Discussion 10 : 21/06/2009 at 10:51 PM10

    All Thai people who feel aggrieved by this issue... Please just GO to this temple. The reality of the situation is totally clear when you actually see it. The car park and the toilets are in Thai territory, The temple is in Cambodia. If Thailand disagrees, then take it to the next level... and invade sovereign territory. I actually think the car park and toilets might actually bring in more cash - which might be more attractive to the Thai politicians involved.

  • Funky from Phnom Penh

    Discussion 9 : 21/06/2009 at 10:05 PM9

    Please don't put variable "Cambodia" into equation "Thai politics".

    We have known enough war, we want peace, nothing but peace.

  • LetsLookatOurselves

    Discussion 8 : 21/06/2009 at 09:56 PM8

    It would make many Thais happier if the PM spends more energy into improving the economy(read the article on economist.com). Stop wasting resources to create a smoke screen!!!! Leave Cambodia alone.

    The UNESCO is not a body that can be intimidated. It will rule any future classification bases on merit.

  • D

    Discussion 7 : 21/06/2009 at 09:01 PM7

    Wow, Abhisit. Haha, everyone else said what I wanna say already, but I still have questions to ask you.

    If you were that strong, why didn't you raise that up in front of Hun Sen? What were you afraid of? Why do you always have to be a back-stabber?

  • Ashsnar

    Discussion 6 : 21/06/2009 at 07:54 PM6

    It is interesting the joung un-experience Thai displomats. They say they will not need to talk with Cambodia but then the Guy named Suthep, who accepted was grew in Battmbang would like to come and talk again. Stupid Thai PM and Deputy PM. They said they will not need to talk with Cambodia while they wnat to raise the issue of Preah Vihear of Cambodia to UNESCO. They are real stupid thieves.

  • Observer

    Discussion 5 : 21/06/2009 at 05:58 PM5

    What an idiot to say that the issue i between Thailand and Unesco´s committee but not Cambodia. I think Thailand is so crazy to say that coz the temple is Cambodias´and it has nothing to do wiith thailand at all.

    Abhisit....you want the place to be a peaceful place? Ok, it is easy...just withdraw thai soliders that you sent to invade Cambodia, then there will be no more war.

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