Army offers info on protest deaths

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Army offers info on protest deaths

Published: 6/12/2011 at 05:48 PM
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The army is ready to provide information relating to the deaths of 91 people killed during the protests in April and May last year to the National Anti-Corruption Commission, on request, deputy army chief Daopong Rattanasuwan said on Tuesday.

Gen Daopong said the army had already provided the information to the fact finding committee for reconciliation headed by Wicha Mahakhun.

The information was given to Somchai Homla-or, a member of the panel.

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ricefield
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Discussion 30 : 08/12/2011 at 12:30 AM30
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Disc 28 - I guess you could ask the same question of the previous government, couldn't you? The UDD has always claimed that they made decisions by a consensus of the leaders. But then you know that already. One thing is for sure the funders of the UDD are the exact opposite group as those that funded and supported the PAD.

You and others continually refuse to realize that there is a power play between two sides neither of which is all right or all wrong. To continually go through life with blinders on only pointing to one site over the other will never heel the problems inside the country. It's time everyone came to the realization that you can't blame all the ills of a country on one man and you can't heel with constant hate. Thaksin may have done some rotten things but it started before he was even born. Blame the system that we live under for allowing it to go on for so long.
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Discussion 29 : 07/12/2011 at 10:49 PM29
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There seems to be confusion about when the 'men in black' came into existence. During the 2009 April protests, the army was called in using live rounds to 'restore order'. There were no MiB. In 2010 April, the army was yet again called in to 'restore order' - and they had armored vehicles and M16s on site. That night, when soldiers began to move in for the second crackdown, grenades went off in the Army camp. It was only then anyone was aware of the MiB. The 3rd and most brutal crackdown was 2010 May. Why was the army used during the 1st and 2nd crackdowns when the MiB didn't exist?
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Discussion 28 : 07/12/2011 at 11:37 AM28
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@SteveCM and Ricefield. I would like to see the reds own up as to who is their leader. Reds have many junior leaders but not one person is game enough to own up to starting the 2009 & 2010 riots and rejecting the 2010 peace offer. Sae Daeng at least said he was the military head but he did not start or fund the riots.
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Discussion 27 : 07/12/2011 at 09:22 AM27
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Fact 1: If red shirts did not bring guns and threw grenades, the soldiers won't be out with guns.
Fact 2: There WERE protesters who shot at soldiers with guns, al jazeera has video footage of this.
Fact 3: Soldiers did fire and kill innocent/violent protesters, they even fired on their own by accident too!

There is no denying that red shirts leaders instigated the whole incident, soldiers fired randomly on protesters due to their lack of experience, training, and organization. Both sides are guilty of different charges.
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Discussion 26 : 07/12/2011 at 08:58 AM26
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Quote from the Bangkok Post says it all, doesn’t it?

Diplomats demand answers
• Published: 11/12/2010 at 12:00 AM
Somchai Hom-laor, a TRC member, said the army had made it clear it would not reveal details about its operations - even though it had previously promised the panel it would provide its detailed plan. "But the army recently told us they had no such plan. They said they just handled situations on a daily basis," Mr Somchai said.
The TRC investigation has found that several pieces of forensic evidence, such as bullet shells, have disappeared, he said. Some bullet shells indicate they were from weapons possessed by state agencies, he said.
A source quoted Mr Somchai as saying many witnesses had refused to give information to the TRC because they feared repercussions.
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Discussion 25 : 07/12/2011 at 06:37 AM25
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D7 : Your point is?
D9 : Have you ever been in Thailand? D15 : Did you bother to fact-check your comment before posting it?
D24 : Most of us are acutely aware of "things are not always as they appear"...one example is :
UDD is a pro-democracy movement. Another is : UDD is against double standards. And another : UDD had no part in last years violence as they were unarmed. And another : The MIB was not ex-rangers and not under Seh Daengs command. And another : The armed forces killed their own to make UDD look bad. Yet another : Thaksin is the champion of the poor and he just loves them soo much. You want more? Yingluck is the real PM of Thailand.
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Discussion 24 : 07/12/2011 at 12:29 AM24
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Disc 11 - the key government people have been asked to appear for questioning if they do not a warrant would be issued for their arrest as per Thai law. What you are likely to see is a well rehearsed testimony where the group denies all and points at others. What the country, and that includes all sides, wants is factual answers - good or bad - on what actually happened and who gave the orders. At present everyone is denying they gave any orders at all.

While I applaud you vigor to support your chosen side some of us who may support either side realize that all things are not always as they appear. This has been born out in past similar incidents in Thailand.
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Discussion 23 : 07/12/2011 at 12:26 AM23
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geoffo (#11) - no "key Gov people" (previous govt, I assume) are currently facing charges, so immunity for them is not an issue. Who are "the others here [who] claim immunity"? In September, the 9 redshirt MPs who ARE facing charges asked parliament to suspend their immunity & their request was denied.
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Discussion 22 : 07/12/2011 at 12:24 AM22
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Disc 11 - the key government people have been asked to appear for questioning if they do not a warrant would be issued for their arrest as per Thai law. What you are likely to see is a well rehearsed testimony where the group denies all and points at others. What the country, and that includes all sides, wants is factual answers - good or bad - on what actually happened and who gave the orders. At present everyone is denying they gave any orders at all.

While I applaud you vigor to support your chosen side some of us who may support either side realize that all things are not always as they appear. This has been born out in past similar incidents in Thailand.
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Discussion 21 : 07/12/2011 at 12:14 AM21
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In answer to your question, D13: For the US, how about the Kent State Massacre, the Rodney King LA Riots, the Detroit Race Riots (1943)?; of course, The United Kingdom of Great Britain and NORTHERN IRELAND (?!) has never deployed troops on its own streets, any more than it is about to deploy troops to undermine the upcoming public workers' strike.
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