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Senators threaten action against FM

Published: 5 Nov 2012 at 13.12
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The Constitution Court will be asked to decide whether Foreign Minister Surapong Tovichakchaikul would be in violation of Section 190 of the constitution if he asks the government to accept the International Criminal Court's (ICC) jurisdiction over the 2010 clashes between security forces and red-shirt protesters, senators said on Monday.

Surachai Liangboonlertchai, senate deputy speaker, said any such decision should be first endorsed by parliament as required by Section 190 because it is an international agreement affecting the country's interests and security.

Although this matter does not involve Thai territory, it directly concerns judicial power, one of the three sovereign powers of the country.

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wakeup
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Discussion 10 : 06 Nov 2012 at 00.5110
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The ICC exists to lend extra weight & legitimacy to Western military aggression. They use it to remove third world leaders who stand in the way of Exxon, BP, and Goldman Sachs. When the US/UK lie to the world, invade & occupy Iraq, killing millions, the ICC doesn't bat an eye.
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Discussion 9 : 05 Nov 2012 at 22.489
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NITNOI D5: "1. The Government and Taksin have made an agreement with the military from when Pua Thai won a landslide victory in the July 2011 elections."

This is absolutely believable. The Pheu Thai has, ever since the elections, made u-turns on previous positions and tucked its tail between its legs. It has stated Prayuth was doing a good job so needed not to be replaced. It has wined and dined with Prem whom, if they did not lead the red shirts to believe he was involved in the 2006 coup, the PT at least allowed them to suspect it. It has allowed red shirts to rot in jails. And other things. It even promised to look into article 112 ab
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Discussion 8 : 05 Nov 2012 at 22.428
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Disc 6 - Well the Senators are all appointed Senators if that helps you answer your question. "what side are the senators on?"
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Discussion 7 : 05 Nov 2012 at 22.367
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Discussion 6; the senators are on the side of THE LAW.... Something Surapong couldn't care less about...his only intention is to service a fugitive criminal.....
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Discussion 6 : 05 Nov 2012 at 16.346
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gee what side are the senators on?

An old general openly calls for a military coup and the senators remain silent.

A FM asks to accept the recommendation the ICC be called in, he gets threatened by the senators.

I repeat:

gee, what side are the senators on?
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Discussion 5 : 05 Nov 2012 at 15.235
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via : Giles Ji Ungpakorn

Millions of Red Shirts would like to see the military generals and Democrat Party politicians brought to court for ordering the shooting of un-armed pro-democracy demonstrators in 2010. But this government is unlikely to pass a simple cabinet resolution to accept the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court on this matter. This would allow the prosecution of those who committed such state crimes. The reason why it is unlikely to happen is because:

1. The Government and Taksin have made an agreement with the military from when Pua Thai won a landslide victory in the July 2011 elections. Previous to this,
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Discussion 4 : 05 Nov 2012 at 14.514
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Seems to me that the DP says they want a decision that is not effected by political influence to make the ruling, until they are faced with accepting that decision, and then we see they are not serious about it at all. Could it be, They think that they can control a decision if it is made by their court? but would be powerless to influence an international court? The PT says they are willing to accept the independent International courts decision as final...
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Discussion 3 : 05 Nov 2012 at 14.333
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understanding the ICC application:

Question: Does the Thai Government require royal or parliamentary approval in order to make a Declaration accepting ICC jurisdiction over the alleged crimes against humanity in 2010?

Answer: No. Under Section 190 of the 2007 Thai Constitution, royal approval is required for all treaties, and parliamentary approval is required for certain treaties. However, a Declaration by the Thai Government, accepting ICC jurisdiction on an ad hoc basis under Article 12.3 of the Rome Statute, is not a treaty. By definition, a treaty involves a bilateral or multilateral agreement between Thailand and another party o
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Discussion 2 : 05 Nov 2012 at 14.312
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It will be a Parliment seating to decide as PT has recently said. The government has the majority so the decision is much predictable.
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Discussion 1 : 05 Nov 2012 at 13.401
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If the government got on with governing and less on politics and in fighting I am sure the country would prosper better.
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