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Chalerm: Police can ask for money

Published: 12 Feb 2013 at 12.50
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Policemen can ask for a gift of money during the Chinese New Year because it is a tradition and is not considered a bribe, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung said on Tuesday.

Deputy Prime Minister in charge of security affairs Chalerm Yubamrung (Photo by Pawat Laopaisarntaksin)

Mr Chalerm was responding to questions after a security camera captured three police officers demanding money from an Indian tailor's shop owner surfaced on the internet.

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felixqui
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Discussion 50 : 17 Feb 2013 at 16.3750
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Boontong,
According to the news report above, Chalerm said that "Policemen can ask for a gift of money during the Chinese New Year because it is a tradition and is not considered a bribe, Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yubamrung said on Tuesday."

There is nothing unclear or ambiguous about this. And it is morally wrong. It endorses corruption.

Do you have a more accurate record of the interview?
Has Chalerm denied saying this?
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Discussion 49 : 13 Feb 2013 at 07.2549
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faceless #47 - No, I am not lonely at all. If you are referring to "Hongbao" giving and receiving, then I believe you, like the rest here, do not know the spirit behind the 'asking', and the attitude related to it. There is no double the tradition and culture have been abused by crooks. These are separate issues. If you referred to what Chalerm said, then like many here, are gullible to believe the news report - I am not referring to the video recording that caught the policemen in uniform. BTW, it is so stupid for the policemen to extort with their uniform on.
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Discussion 48 : 13 Feb 2013 at 07.1548
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kasper #44 - Again, what I commented was about the accuracy of the news report. Mr Chalerm did not say "Police can ask for money". Among other things, he also said the two policemen will be punished if found guilty of extortion.
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Discussion 47 : 13 Feb 2013 at 06.3347
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It must be lonely for boontong here. His fellow government apologists have had the good sense to pull their heads in on this one.
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Discussion 46 : 12 Feb 2013 at 23.5846
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Do they make Hong Bao in A3 size? They might want to consider it.
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Discussion 45 : 12 Feb 2013 at 23.2945
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Mr. Chalerm seems to be a very "gifted" person indeed.
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Discussion 44 : 12 Feb 2013 at 22.3644
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@boontong, d42.

The conversation between the indian and the police was heard by reporters at the scene who then published it. You can see all involved on the security cameras. The indian guy even tried to help the police by telling them it was a bad time, but they insisted on getting their extortion money, sorry I mean gift, right away.

Anyway, it does not matter what holiday, tradition or day of the year it is. The police should not be asking anyone for money for any reason - ever! Fines can be paid at the station against a receipt.

As far as I know, China and Hongkong are not role models when it comes to corruption either!
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Discussion 43 : 12 Feb 2013 at 22.0243
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You can not ask for a gift for goodness sake.
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Discussion 42 : 12 Feb 2013 at 22.0042
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kasper #39 &40 - I don't know what really told place and the exchanged of conversation between the Indian and the police officers. The issue I initially commented was, Mr. Chalerm never said policemen can ask for a gift of money during the Chinese New Year because it is a tradition and is not considered a bribe. He responded in the context of CNY and according to investigation. What you raised in these two postings are irrelevant to what I wanted to share about giving and receiving during CNY. If space permit, I would have mention-related practices. To touch on the abused on the giving and receiving of "Hongbao" was not my purpose.
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Discussion 41 : 12 Feb 2013 at 21.4541
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You don't ask for a gift, a gift is given.

Chalem is an embarrassment for Thailand, but nobody seems to care.
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