Four proposals agreed at limited amnesty talks

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Four proposals from watered-down amnesty talks

Published: 11 Mar 2013 at 15.50
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A meeting of representatives of five groups who attended Monday's talks on a proposed amnesty for political offenders agreed on four proposals, including the temporary release of those still detained to ease political conflict, Deputy House Speaker Charoen Chankomol said after the meeting.

Mr Charoen said this after chairing a meeting attended by representatives of five of the 11 groups invited to take part in discussions on a possible amnesty for offenders in political conflicts.

Those who attended today's meeting organised by Mr Charoen were: Chiang Rai MP Samart Kaewmeechai and Nonthaburi MP Udomdej Rattanasathien of the Pheu Thai Party; Pheu Thai list MP Korkaew Pikulthong representing the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD); deputy army chief Gen Dapong Rattanasuban and deputy defence permanent secretary Gen ML Prasobchai Kasemsant representing the armed forces; Pol Col Seri Khairassami, who represented Ratchaprasong business operators; and Ruangsak Ngamsompak, a Bhumjaithai Party list MP.

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whatajoke
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Discussion 20 : 12 Mar 2013 at 07.2320
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Ricefield D12/13/19 dont be so naive, the only valid thing you are saying is that a retroactively applied law to deny appeal is keeping Thaksin out of the country, precisly because we have a legal system that is hopeless because the rich just abuse it. He certainly was guilty of assets concealment, you can't deny that, and if he was to return so that the numerous other cases against him can proceed, and without intrference from the govt he is controlling, he would be locked away for decades. Any other -'ifs and buts' based on the fact that hs corrupt opponents arent also in jail, or that this is how Thailand works, is irrelevent.
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Discussion 19 : 12 Mar 2013 at 00.3319
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Disc 15 - Then I ask you if, "Thaksin had no problem changing and manipulating laws to benefit his company". Why wasn't he charged for doing it? The simple answer is that they had to convict him of something to get rid of him and they could not guarantee a conviction if they charged him with "changing and manipulating laws to benefit his company" so they manipulated the law and used it retroactively which is wrong, IMHO.
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Discussion 18 : 12 Mar 2013 at 00.3018
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Ricefield "Don't be fooled so easily by PR stunts."
Lol that's rich coming from you. You fall for every single PTP/UDD stunt.
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Discussion 17 : 12 Mar 2013 at 00.2617
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I think there should be big concert again, and the Government should make new music for us to sing.just like the Democrat government do when they came to power, make music
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Discussion 16 : 12 Mar 2013 at 00.2316
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The Thaksin club with more nonsense why they think they are special and don't have to comply with the law like every one else .They talk about being against elite privilege yet they act like they are above the law changing it to suit their needs while wasting hard working tax payers money on handouts .Disgusting
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Discussion 15 : 11 Mar 2013 at 23.5615
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ricefield - Thaksin had no problem changing and manipulating laws to benefit his company before he sold it. And at this point, at least Abhisit is cooperating with those laying false charges against him. He didn't say he was going to the Olympics then never come back. There is NO ONE from the red camp that has even "appeared" as you put it to cooperate with justice(real or not.
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Discussion 14 : 11 Mar 2013 at 23.4614
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The more the anti-PT/thaksin groups boycott the discussion talks, the more they would be isolated and ignored in future.
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Discussion 13 : 11 Mar 2013 at 23.2213
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Disc 11 - BOB, I've never once said Thaksin was innocent, Never. What I have continually said is that Thaksin was convicted by a manipulation of the law which is undemocratic. IE:- The law was changed and then used retroactively to convict him. This use of a retroactive law was decried by almost every law school and group worldwide. If he's guilty charge him under the appropriate law of the time he committed the crime. The thing is they couldn't, even with unprecedented groups set up just to find something against him. In the end they had to change the law and use it retroactively. It's like planting evidence.
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Discussion 12 : 11 Mar 2013 at 23.1212
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Disc 10 - "they REFUSE amnesty" The truth is they are APPEARING to refuse amnesty. When and if the rubber hits the road they will "reluctantly" accept it for the good of the country. Don't be fooled so easily by PR stunts.
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Discussion 11 : 11 Mar 2013 at 22.4111
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Disc7 "Time they flushed that attitude"?

You mean they should give up their principles of law and order to permit a convicted criminal go free? That he shouldn't face future charges? That the 2500 killed on his orders should give up hope for justice?

Why? Because he has money? Because poor people like him? I DARE you to write 'Thaksin is innocent'. I know you can't/won't. Because you KNOW he's guilty. But you don't care.
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