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UDD may find passion for protest waning

  • Published: 29/12/2008 at 12:00 AM
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It is obvious that the pro-Thaksin United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) will not give the Democrat-led government a moment's peace, let alone a five-day long holiday to celebrate the New Year that the government granted as a gift to the working people.

The red shirt supporters of fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra - many of them bused to Bangkok from the North and Northeast courtesy of the rally organisers - descended on Sanam Luang yesterday where they began a marathon protest against the government until there is a general election. The pretext for the protest is that Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva has no legitimacy to lead the administration because he dodged mandatory military conscription two decades ago. (The army earlier explained that Mr Abhisit, although he was not drafted as he was overseas studying, served as a teacher in the military academy.) It was also alleged that his cabinet could not be trusted as several of them are under-qualified while others have tainted records.

Well, the red shirt leaders can dream up whatever allegations they like to justify their protest. But the bottom line is quite obvious, that is they want a fresh election so the Puea Thai party will have a chance to stage a comeback and thus pave the way for the triumphant return home of their dear big boss, Thaksin, who will be whitewashed of all the pending charges against him and granted amnesty for his conviction.

The UDD core leaders have assured their supporters will not storm the parliament in the same way the anti-Thaksin People's Alliance for Democracy seized Government House when Mr Abhisit delivers his policy statement today.

But given the recent attack with stones on the cars of some Democrat MPs outside the parliament by some red shirt thugs to vent their fury against the Friends of Newin's "betrayal" of their boss, the assurance cannot be completely trusted, although the prime minister himself does not appear worried. Police have been told to exercise extreme restraint and to avoid using force against the protesters to avoid a repeat of the blunder by the previous Somchai administration when police resorted to excessive force to break up the PAD protesters outside the parliament in October.

According to the UDD's plans, Thaksin was invited to join the rally by phoning in from his undisclosed hideaway, perhaps in Hong Kong, to give his faithful supporters a rousing morale booster with his usual boring self-pitying and finger-pointing rhetoric.

Sadly though, the phone-in session which is always touted as the highlight of UDD rallies seems to have lost the magic touch. The last phone-in session which took place in Khon Kaen was not even mentioned in any mainstream newspaper.

There is an old Thai saying which goes: "Three days away, a girl changes heart."

But for a fugitive like Thaksin who has been away from home and his supporters for months and not knowing whether or when he will ever set foot on his native soil again, the likelihood is that his influence is waning and that their adulation of him may gradually fade away.

His influence has already taken a beating as witnessed in the mass defection of the Friends of Newin faction to the embrace of the Democrats. This would have been totally impossible had Thaksin still been at home and wielding his iron-grip control of his party.

The rebels and their de facto leader, Newin Chidchob, would not have the guts to turn their back on the ex-premier without facing adverse consequences.

Not only that, cracks have emerged in the Puea Thai party and the UDD has experienced its first rift.

Kwanchai Praipana, core leader of the Khon Rak Udon group which is affiliated with the UDD and a DJ of a community radio network in Udon Thani, has publicly announced that he will not join the Sanam Luang rally, claiming he will be too busy celebrating the New Year. Such a poor excuse for not joining the crucial rally is totally uncharacteristic of a red shirt fireband like Mr Kwanchai, well-known for his fierce opposition to the yellow shirts.

The UDD core leaders claim their rally will attract as many as up to 100,000 protesters. That might be a deliberate exaggeration to boost their claim to a fatter cheque from the boss for spectacular services rendered. But the bad news is that the boss is not as immensely rich as he was before. His latest unfrozen assets were said to be down to some US$500 million (17 billion baht) from a peak of $5 billion.

Veera Prateepchaikul is Deputy Editor-in-Chief, Post Publishing Co Ltd.

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  • Portman

    Discussion 98 : 01/01/2009 at 04:18 PM98

    Drey > "Going back to the last Democrat government, why was there no bans or convictions or dissolvement?"

    Please note that Rakkiat Sukthana, Democrat deputy minister of public health under the last Democrat led government of Chuan Leekpai is currently serving a 15 year sentence and was fined Baht 223 million, seized by the court from his assets, for taking a Baht 5 million fine while in office. He was the first politician ever convicted by the Supreme Court's Criminal Division for Political Office Holders - the branch that also nailed Thaksin and was set up under the 1997 constitution not under the military sponsored 2007, as you allege. The time taken to try and convict Rakkiat was similar to the time taken over Thaksin's case, although you assert there was something fishy here, as well as that Thaksin's case was in some way trivial or that he had no idea what his wife was doing. In fact the potential for profit in the Radchadapisek land scandal is far greater than the mere Baht 5 million Rakkiat was convicted for and Thaksin signed the spouse approval form to purchase the Radchadapisek land, a key piece of evidence that he knew exactly what was happening and not hearsay evidence as you allege.

    Drey, your knowledge of Thai politics and history is like a piece Gruyere cheese. Thaksin's PR agency should replace you with some one more knowledgable. But then he always was a cheapskate.

  • Just an Observer

    Discussion 97 : 01/01/2009 at 02:29 PM97

    Drey,

    You appear to have a lot of "factual information" about Thai politics. Unfortunately, you don't cite any sources for all this "information". May I suggest that in the future you provide a source for your "facts" without which they are really nothing more than unsubstantiated opinions.

  • Portman

    Discussion 96 : 01/01/2009 at 01:37 PM96

    Andre M. An interesting point about the elites. Chris Baker, the academic who writes columns under the name of Chiang Noi, pointed out recently that we are witnessing a re-run of the feudal struggle to retain power. Those struggling to retain it are not in fact the palace and urban elites but the contractors, rice millers, money lenders, illegal loggers, underground lottery operators etc in the provinces who, since the end of the Pibul inspired anti-Chinese nationalism era in the 70s, have taken over the real power in the provinces from the bureaucrats who used to hold it under absolute monarchy and the nationalist military regimes. These provincial Chinese businessmen form the backbone of the party apparatus of TRT, PPP, Pheua Thai, Chart Thai and all the other rural based political parties. For them politics represents a way of enhancing their business interests which certainly do not include empowering the ordinary non-Chinese rural people. Their primitive business practices very much rely on their ability to intimidate and exploit the ordinary people. They are terrified of any type of social democracy movement which, despite being crude and inarticulate at the outset, like the PAD, could eventually mature and end up resulting in rule of law in the provinces and an end to their petty reigns of terror and immoral and corrupt business practices.

    To Drey. According to Bank of Thailand statistics, Thailand's economic growth improved for two out of 6 years that Thaksin was PM and declined for 4 of them. It is news to other Southeast Asian countries that Thailand was considered as the bright light amongst them while its GDP was growing at a below average rate compared to the rest of Southeast Asia.

    Here is a quote from Thaksin's Wikipedia entry that highlights the real quality of his popular appeal as a rural Northern Thai of humble origins who pulled himself up by the bootlaces, that he tries to portray in his official biography and elsewhere. When he first became PM he put it about that he was actually a Mon to explain his non-Thai looking facial features.

    "Thaksin's great-grandfather Seng Sae Khu was a Hakka Chinese immigrant from Meizhou, Guangdong who arrived in Siam in the 1860s and settled in Chiang Mai in 1908. His eldest son, Chiang Sae Khu, was born in Chanthaburi in 1890 and married a Thai woman, Saeng Somna. Chiang's eldest son, Sak, adopted the Thai surname Shinawatra ("does good routinely") in 1938 because of the anti-Chinese movement under Pibun Songkram, and the rest of the family adopted it.

    Thaksin's father, Lert, was born in Chiang Mai in 1919 and married Yindi Ramingwong. In 1968, Lert Shinawatra entered politics and became an MP for Chiang Mai and deputy leader of the now-defunct Liberal Party. He quit politics in 1976.

    Seng Sae Khu made his fortune through tax farming. The Khu/Shinawatra family later founded Shinawatra Silks and then moved into finance, construction and property development. Lert Shinawatra opened a coffee shop, grew oranges and flowers in Chiang Mai's San Kamphaeng district, and opened two movie theatres, a gas station, and a car and motorcycle dealership. By the time Thaksin was born, the Shinawatra family was one of the richest and most influential in Chiang Mai."

  • Andre M.

    Discussion 95 : 01/01/2009 at 12:26 PM95

    Eye opener Discussion 93

    We will have to wait and see. For me the benchmark will be if heads of them who were responsible for the fire drama yesterday will roll. I am holding my breath to see what Abhisit will do. I don't want to speculate but we all will see.

  • Andre M.

    Discussion 94 : 01/01/2009 at 12:18 PM94

    Portman, discussion 89

    Chapeau, absolutely spot on. What about the elites the Taxhim clique complain about??? It's the rural elites like the Kamnans and Phuyai Bahns who force the poor villagers what to think to further their own interests. In Chiangrai the leaders of the 100% villages received a 2nd hand pick up for their successful fear mongering. Personally observed by a reliable source.

    Drey, get medication for your compulsive disorder quickly, you are boring everybody including your allies.

  • Eye-Opener

    Discussion 93 : 01/01/2009 at 12:03 PM93

    To Tan Bim Bong on Discussion 92.

    Beware of what you wish for. I may have agreed with you that both Thaksin and Lee Kuan Yew, are leaders who are either dictator or corrupted in one way or another. In the way, that's not surprising as both of them are from Hakka clan. Watch out that Abhisit is also Hakka. If my research is true, he will follow the same step as most Hakka leader who are also power crazy, great liars and morally bankrupt. A few of the 'famous' Hakka leaders are;
    General Ne Win - the general who overthrown the democratic-elected government after independence. See how Burma suffers until now.
    Chen Shui Bian - the glib-tongue leader who have nothing to offer except his provocation. Don't forget his rotten family.
    Lee Teng Hui - the man of Hakka father who think he is better off being a Japanese. Now under probe for corruption as well.
    Hong Xiuquan - the Hakka man who claim he is the brother of Jesus, started the Taiping rebellion causing the 2nd greatest casulties after WW2.
    plus many others.

    Watch up for the Hakkas especially the leaders.

  • TAN BIM BONG

    Discussion 92 : 01/01/2009 at 10:42 AM92

    Thaksin is the cause/root of all evil in Thailand.He is a dictator when he was in power.All his critics were charged in court and bankrupted, same strategy like Lee Kuan Yew of Singapore.The courts were controlled tightly by Taksin.He gaves money loans and animals to the poor NOT from his pockets but the Government.He went to Burma ,gave loans from the Thai Government to buy satellites from his company.His wife bought the land cheaply from the Government (less tan the actual value)to be sold off at a hefty profits...and alot more tahn meets the eyes.To say taht he is the least corrupted is an understatement....OPEN your eyes and see that he is not a SAINT as he claim to be...

  • Bhanja

    Discussion 91 : 01/01/2009 at 08:52 AM91

    Drey wrote: The vast majority (99% at least) who voted TRT or PPP were not paid one baht.

    right they were not paid 1 Baht but about 500 or 1000 Baht !!! Drey you must live in dreamland or has Taksin bought you too ???

    Drey wrote too: Thaksin was probably the least corrupt one in a long time

    Taksins government has robbed the country of more money than every government before that ... think only of the staggering amounts that have been syphoned of the airport project !!!

    Drey keep on dreaming !!!

  • Drey

    Discussion 90 : 31/12/2008 at 03:34 PM90

    For the record, Thaksin was probably the least corrupt one in a long time. To make my point more valid I DO NOT wish Thaksin to return to power but only to see honest un-biased Justice and a true Democracy for all Thai's.

    Many people with no knowldege of the history of Thai politics are making very crazy statements based only on emotion.

    Lets get our facts right:

    1/ It took a military coup appointed supreme court and government over 2 years to convict Thaksin.

    2/ The most damning evidence is reported to have come from "SPOKEN WORD" and "WRITTEN TESTEMANT" of a very few insiders. This came years into the coup, anyone can argue such "testemants" were forced out, paid for etc.....why did these people wait SO MANY YEARS and only during the coup before suddenly coming out with these accusations ?

    3/ The length of time to convict Thaksin points to the potential that the convictions are "engineered" in order to discredit and disgrace him, a point he himself is making by fleeing the country saying "he cannot get a fair trial" in Thailand under the coup appointed system.

    4/ It is said "All politicians are corrupt". The amount of money that Thaksin is reported to have been corrupt with, is less than the country has lost through the PAD shutting the airports illegally. So why have the PAD leaders and all persons involved in shutting the airport down not been jailied for a long time ?

    5/ Going back to the last Democrat government, why was there no bans or convictions or dissolvement ?

    6/ Moving forward a few years later, why, after the OAG recommended that TRT and the Democrats be dissolved, was only the TRT dissolved ?

    7/ The 2007 constitution protects the CNS members who organised the coup, as they are immune from all previous actions. This is said to be why the 2007 constitution is being "protected" by the PAD, certain people will lose their immunity and likely could be tried for treason from breaking the "Peoples Charter" they threw in the rubbish bin and replaced with their 2007 version. Do you think the PAD are worried about just little old Thaksin ?

    8/ The current Supreme Court Judges who have ruled 100% of the cases against the TRT, PPP Government & officials as guilty WERE HAND-PICKED, CHOOSEN BY THE MILITARY COUP GOVERNMENT. Does that not reek of corruption and a failed legal system?

    9/ The last election took place under the coup appointed system, under martial law in places, with solidiers reported to be sent out to "speak to people", with the solidiers reportedly order to vote Democrat, with reportedly massive resources placed out to watch all PPP politicians for corruption but ignore other parties, and in spite of this the PPP won. The PAD claims the election was biased and not fair are in fact correct, the last elections were extrremely biased against the PPP and yet still they won.

    10/ People "hate" the Democrats as they are seen as the "untouchables" with a lot of old Elite rulers in the background pulling all the strings. Which is why its said they are immune to all charges and are said, by most peopele, to be the most corrupt of all, representing the "old ways" and "old power cliques". We can see this clearly in the fact that every legal case thrown into the courts against the TRT, PPP government and its representatives is a "GUILTY VERDICT". While all cases against the Democrats, PAD are "NEVER GUILTY VERDICTS". Does everybody truly believe that the Democrats are so clean and pure angels? Did the PAD do many things illegal? YES, we all know it and saw it on television BUT will they ever stand trial? And if so, more important will they ever be found guilty???

    11/ Other not less than important facts include nation dividing actions such as the minority Democrat MP's NEVER once tried to work with the majority government (TRT or PPP...) AND NEVER lifted one finger (or lip) to follow the law of the nation against the PAD's numerous crimes.

    12/ It is the Democrats who have the history as being some of the worse, MOST CORRUPT, nation robbers which is why we saw the rise of the TRT in the first place (remember everyone???).

    13/ It is the Democrats who likely supported & orchastrated this entire mess we see since the 2007 military coup. Why we ask? The answer is simple. POWER = MONEY = PERSONAL GAIN. "Once Corrupted Always Corrupted" All you followers of the PAD and Democrats who enjoyed seeing Democracy vanish in the 2007 coup PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT TO READ THE HISTORY OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.

    14/ Under PM Thaksin leadership Thailand became the number 1 ranked economy in S.E.Asia. Today Thailand ranks 3rd and falling. It is economic prosperity that brings a better life to all Thais. PM Thaksin is a brilliant businessman with powerful associates in governments & businesses throughout the world. He knows how to run a country. That is why everyone could see a REAL difference in their quality of life when he was leading. The Majority of Thai's still feel that PM Thaksin truly cares about them and their wellbeing.

    The list of discussion points and facts goes on and on, but while many here simply say Thaksin or not, the whole Yellow against Red is more than just him, it goes back to before him and will carry on after him as it is now, there is far far far more at stake, so please open your minds.

    PAD/Democrats now want everyone to "give the government a chance..." They think anarchy is only starting now that the reds are protesting the stealing of a country by the minority? Wake up! Anarchy started when the Military got the green light to take-over the government in 2007, changing the constitution so that one bad apple destroys the entire majority party (twice). Anarchy was there when PM Samak lost his job because of a cooking show (the world laughed at the ruling against him). Anarchy has been in front of everyone's televisions with the yellow shirts doing anything/everything they want without worry of Democratic laws being enforced. The majority will win the rich Bangkok elite. Just wait and see. And don't think for one second it is a North versus South problem. Many MANY southern Thai's understand what is Democracy and what is not. Go Red's. Protect the country from old money power hungry thief's.

    Does every Democrat/PAD supporter think I am one of those "uneducated voters" who do not know how to vote correctly? Or was paid off to vote? Facts are facts so please don't distort them. Thaksin made his money from the bottom up working his
    business into businesses that grew and grew. He is extremely business savvy. Nothing wrong with making money the old fashioned way is there? That is what capitalism and democracy support. Individual freedom to prosper (legally). He ran for office to help all Thai's prosper or do you think he did it soley to make his already huge assets larger? Just look at Thaksin's results, Thailand became the number 1 S.E.Asia economy during his leadership. Today, with all the Coup's and Protest's, Thailand is ranked 3rd and falling fast. I choose to believe it is the fore not the latter. So thanks all you coup/dictatorship lovers thanks for trying to make a point. Sorry it missed badly.

    Now the Police/Military are taking their jobs seriously. Makes me ill how these Democrats/PAD can manipulate and destroy the country and the votes of 67% of all Thai's. The PAD can attack anything/everything without any problems from law enforcement. How disgusting is that for the future of Democracy? Which protester is the true Democrat? Not yellow for sure.

    Finally, vote buying! What crap! The vast majority (99% at least) who voted TRT or PPP were not paid one baht. The majority is still the majority no matter what the PAD/Democrats wish to believe.

    The True Thai Majority...Protect Democracy!

  • Portman

    Discussion 89 : 31/12/2008 at 01:21 PM89

    Martin Curtis comment that he is just on his way to his travel agent to cancel his one month holiday makes it clear that most of this stuff is fake. It is hard to imagine that some one who follows the Thai situation so closely that the read the Bkk Post on line would give up one month's holiday in Thailand, now that there seems little risk to travellers. Also who physically goes to a travel agent to book or cancel a holiday these days.

    Drey's comments are absolute drivel taken from book of trash given to Thaksin's PR agencies who probably pay him to post this stuff around the net under different names. Thaksin - a brilliantly clever and honest businessman as well as a brilliant economist, economic leader, the only Chinese capitalist in Thailand who actually cares about the welfare of the ethnic Thai labourers, rather than just money, power and his Chinese clan and cronies etc etc? Please give us a break. He started his business moonlighting from the police selling overpriced mainframes to the police force and you know what that means. He was smart to see the potential of mobile phones but was not the only one to see this and want to get involved. Under the Chatichai government getting these mobile concessions and keeping others out was certainly not possible without paying massive bribes. He used to openly joke to visitors that having an office in the old part of town was convenient for carrying the brown envelopes round to government offices LOL. Although he poses as a champion of democracy and is virulently against military coups, he was not averse to cosying up to the military junta in 1991-2 and doing whatever favours were necessary to secure an unusually favorable concession for Shinawatra Sattelite. He even flew General Sunthorn, the leader of the military junta, out to French Guyana for the launch of his first sattelite and made a fawning speech to the effect that Sunthorn, known for his tastes in luxurious living far in excess of his US$350 a month salary, had been extremely co-operative in the project which could not have been undertaken without his personal intervention. His foray into cable TV was at the expense of an American joint venture partner called, William Morrow, who suddenly found Thaksin playing the Thai connections card on him and confiscating the business and all the equipment, after Morrow had set up the business himself without any help from Thaksin. During the Thaksin government, the courts spun out Morrow's case against Thaksin until it had passed the statute of limitations. So what goes around comes around as far as blubbing on giant TV screens to his paid supporters that the courts are unfair to him which seems not to be the case anyway. If he has no faith in Thai courts, why has he persistently filed defamation cases for billions of baht against his critics?

    Economic management and love for ordinary non-Chinese Thais? Look at the numbers. Ecoonomic growth peaked very early in the first Thaksin government in 2003 and went into decline immediately after that. The economic growth was made possible by the tough measures taken by the Chuan government to clean up the mess of the 1997 crisis. Thaksin gave his beloved Thai peasants a short term boost with give aways and loans that they didn't realise they would have to pay back. But by the time he left office they were more deeply indebted than ever before.

    Wonderful connections around the world that help to be such a great national leader? Would these by any chance include Gordon Brown and Jacqui Smith who seem less than impressed by his great wealth and wonderful leadership qualities? They certainly include Mohammed Fayed who was denied British nationality, despite 30 years residence in the UK, due to serious doubts about his financial integrity, including, but not least, ugly allegations that he broke into safety deposit boxes in his Harrods store. Anyway it looks as if Thaksin may be hard pushed in keeping up his connections in developed countries. Since the UK cancelled his visa, it is probably not worth his while attempting to apply for Schengen, US, Canadian, Australian or New Zealand visas, as they usually follow each other's lead. No doubt he is aleady running around with Panamanian and Belizean passports in his pocket, against the imminent day when the Thai Foreign Ministry cancels all his Thai passports, as would have been the case months ago for any other convicted criminal on the run. Hopefully he will soon give up on Thailand and allow the rifts he has caused to heal. Perhaps he should try playing politics in a Latin American country instead. If Fujimori could do it why not Thaksin?

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