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A busload of questions on rental scheme

  • Published: 2/06/2009 at 12:00 AM
  • Newspaper section: News

Let's face it. Bangkok's public buses have never been a preferred mode of transportation for the city's dwellers. Some are crowded. Others run at unpredictable intervals - two of them may arrive at the same time at the same stop, or you wait an hour and none show up. Some offer a scary ride that can turn your trip into a suicide mission. Others make you feel like being part of a gangster movie - you don't know when the driver or fare collector would take out some hidden weapon (usually it's the long removable gear stick) and storm out of the vehicle to fight some roadside enemy.


The main reason why city buses continue to exist is that they are cheap. The fare ranges from 6 baht for a hot bus to about 24 baht for an air-con one. There is no other reason why Bangkok people tolerate it (except for some few routes where an availability of bus lanes makes it faster to travel by bus than private car). No score on service. No impression on safety. No compliment on being convenient. And it is definitely not a fast way to move compared to the Skytrain or the Metro.

As we are on a blunt note, let me say it is not surprising the Transport Ministry's plan to lease 4,000 buses to add to the city's fleet is not popular with anyone. In fact, it seems to have just one single lonely and die-hard supporter: Transport Minister Sohpon Zarum.

The project's critics have pointed out the outrageous price tag (67.9 billion baht) for a proposal that seems to hinge on an unrealistic projection of future income - 10,000 baht per bus per day when the Bangkok Mass Transit Authority (BMTA) which will be the project operator earns an average of 6,000 to 7,000 baht per bus per day at present.

Don't forget that within the 10-year timeframe of the lease, there may be at least one or two more mass transit train lines in operation (maybe an example of too rosy a projection of the future on my part). They will eat into the scheme's projected number of customers. In short, the projected commuters to use the public bus and, thus, income should be lower, not higher.

They also questioned the leasing and maintenance fees - set at 2,082 and 2,250 baht per bus per day respectively - as too high. A private operator said the maintenance fees should be about half the quoted price at 600 to 1,300 baht only. Some critics said that at this price, the BMTA might as well buy the buses and own them.

Unlike these critics, I do not oppose the ministry's option to lease instead of buying these buses. I agree that outsourcing these operations could save the BMTA a lot of headaches regarding repairing and replacing broken buses, not to say plugging some holes that allow corruption to take place.

However, I am with the critics when it comes to the romantic projections. Most of all, I disagree with the size of the project. Minister Sohpon suggested that the bus-leasing investment is part of the plan to restructure the debt-ridden BMTA and turn it into a profitable organisation. No question there, but one must ask if the huge investment is the only way to revive the agency.

Has the minister checked whether the BMTA operates at maximum efficiency and that it can handle the additional budget and workload without undue losses? Above all, how profitable should an organisation apparently set up as a semi-welfare service for the urban poor be? It is, after all, a public organisation.

Minister Sohpon has not discussed any alternative for the BMTA's profitability except to push for the massive addition to the fleet, without even considering future changes in the commuter landscape and culture.

Little surprise, then, that his bus scheme is finding it hard to reach the feasibility highway.

Which brings us to another basic contention in the scheme. Why would the proposed public buses need a GPS navigational system?

Those who have been on a public bus would know that it runs on a fixed route. If you have a smart enough driver, you don't need an electronic device to guide him or her. It would be redundant. The minister might argue that the GPS would allow the control base to manipulate the fleet better. Those who know Bangkok traffic, however, would realise instantly that this is daydreaming.

Another frill that should be trimmed from this overly ambitious project is the e-ticketing system to be installed in every bus. Who needs such an expensive complicated device on board a bus when a simple fare box should be enough?

Let's cut through the glut and frills and be honest. This project features a busload of questions. It should not be endorsed in the current shape.

  • Atiya Achakulwisut is Editorial Pages Editor, Bangkok Post.

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  • seang

    Discussion 14 : 03/06/2009 at 11:37 PM14

    khun Atiya, you are about right.."about some offer
    a scary ride that can turn your trip into a suicide mission, the other make you feel like being part of a gangster......" i can help but to LOL to hear some else said it...we have a long ..long way to get to where everyday life more livable comtable for everyone ,where as to now everyone ia a victim..and has been victimize for a long..long time also while most thais are very good heat in nature, life have turn to be a daily difficult more and more for them...hope all leaders in every sectors'leaders get together and be real of care for country and public good ...greed and self promotion and care have to give way..some day.. soon if any going to get any real - better to the public good..khun Atiya keep try to bring up ..for everyone to do good thought about thing of everyday here... don't need to attack her!




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  • Jay

    Discussion 13 : 02/06/2009 at 04:41 PM13

    You will always get what you pay for. Don't be so pestimistic.

    Adding 4,000 buses to the system means that BMTA will be able to retire some of its very old, unreliable smoke-producing machines running today.

    The increased cost of maintenance means that the quality of the maintenance should be better which in turn should increase the safety and the hygenic of the riders( of the ppl who have to endure the smoke as well).

    GPS can be used to manage routing and etc as mentioned by a lot of people here already.

    Nicer, cleaner and better managed buses should be able to attract more people, hence the "rosy" revenue projection.

    One thing that is missing in the plan is how BMTA will better traing their drivers and staffs on service and driving skills.

  • Ozman_Bkk

    Discussion 12 : 02/06/2009 at 02:21 PM12

    There are parts of this article that I agree with but also some I disagree with. Perhaps the GPS could be handy for management. Khun Atiya mentioned the fact that sometimes buses arrive two at a time. GPS could be used to keep buses on the same route separated. I disagree about people not liking buses. The Skytrain or the underground do not, and will not, service large areas of Bangkok's fringes. Buses are important. Frightening at times ? Absolutely. Overcrowded ? Definitely. Convenient ? Most assuredly. Bangkok would not operate without buses. Do we need this project ? I don't know but the figures don't add up. Congratulations to the PM who is asking questions. Brickbats to the Transport Minister Sohpon Zarum for resenting the questions. If this project is above board he should be welcoming the scrutiny not attacking.

  • Hyperinflation

    Discussion 11 : 02/06/2009 at 02:16 PM11

    Adding technology for its own sake is just stupid. There is only 1 reason to upgrade technology...if it saves money or increases revenue by enhancing efficiency. A GPS system would not have this effect. The bus drivers already know approximately how long it takes to navigate various areas at various times, and their arrival and departure times as well as ticket revenues are recorded at the terminal stations. It is hard to imagine how more information than this would increase revenue. This is simply a useless techno gadget designed to line someone's pocket.

    I ride the busses every day. Far more important than an epayment system would be a simple transfer system that has been in use for the last 50 years in other countries. There is no money to made here, just a reorganization of existing concessions so that riders can transfer from one system to the other. The BTS and MRT do not need to be included in this. As K. Atiya implies, busses and trains are in completely different categories when it comes to transportation solutions.

    In short, the correct solution for the public are simple changes that can be made without spending billions. Unfortunately, it makes it hard to get huge corruption payments when you put the public interest first.

  • where do you live ?

    Discussion 10 : 02/06/2009 at 01:37 PM10

    the author of this article should be aware that buses are the only transportation system apart of bts and mrt. since bts and mrt cover a very limited area and this for just the last 5-8 years bangkoker are depending on buses ever since !! i believe that the network of buses in this huge metropolis belongs most definitely to the densest in the world and is a quite well performing one.

  • Raimund

    Discussion 9 : 02/06/2009 at 01:17 PM9

    I am using the buses nearly 30 years now and the service is as shabby as before,despite promises to get better if the fares are allowed to rise.
    Too late,too few,too crowded,hardly stopping at bus stops,mostly in second or third lane and too dirty.
    Do you think that the new buses will be better?
    The service will be bad as usual,the cost will be carried by taxpayers,so it does not matter how many people will be on the bus,the driver does not matter,because he is always on the run (home).
    This project stinks of corruption.GPS ???to give the drivers wife a chance to locate him? The maintenance fee will go in pockets of the owner and the buses will look like scrap after 2 years. Who can afford the tickets? Who will repair the buse,the same guys as ever?Nobody will switch from BTS or MRT to NGA buses, as long as the traffic is so bad. People with lower income will still ride the cheapest green buses.E-tickets? Show me a commoner who has any idea what an E-ticket is. HiSO is not sitting in buses they got their Benz and BMW.
    Sophon Zarum,tell us frankly,that you give a shit on the passengers, but care only for Nevin's business.Do you need the money so desperately? Try working.

  • John

    Discussion 8 : 02/06/2009 at 01:05 PM8

    About the GPS thing:

    it's not that much for the bus driver, GPS is meant to get a centralized picture of what's going on on the bus network.


    and actually because of recurrent traffic jam, pinpointing the buses on map in real time would be more than helpful to manage the fleet.

    right now the state of the bus network at time T is almost an unfathomable realm...

    So yes do integrate GPS and centralize the data to efficiently manage the fleet in real time.


    and about metro and skytrain:
    too many can't afford the daily fare. so don't be pricks saying that improving the bus system is useless...

  • kangaloo

    Discussion 7 : 02/06/2009 at 12:49 PM7

    The only reason a GPS system would be required is to guage wether the bus is running on time.
    In Perth Australai it is used for this reason only.
    When the bus arrives at the destination point the GPS onboard the bus "talks" the GPS responder at the bus stop and transmits the signal to the Bus Traffic control centre.
    This enables the TCC to control thr Bus Routes more effiecently.

  • Bill W

    Discussion 6 : 02/06/2009 at 12:17 PM6

    Marc is right !
    Good ideas!
    1. give instructions to driver to slow down to arrive on time! (Hmm Thai time or real world time?)
    2. It could allow controlling the bus is respecting speed limit! (What speed limit? What lines in the road? Did I do that?)
    3. It would indeed allow managing the fleet (you must be kidding, they can't even manage what they have now!) which is major requirement when talking about thousands of units.
    4. the possibility to receive a SMS on his mobile regarding the approximate arrival time of the bus, with a rather simple computer system investment.
    5. Lastly (my own addition) coordinate bus, BTS and MTA with one electronic ticket, so in the event that the above issues 1-4 can actually take place, paying a fare instead of digging for change when you can't even move your hand from your side because of overcrowded (and VERY DANGEROUS) conditions, is easy!
    Unfortunately, just the way the police reacted to computerized traffic control, the bus system will probably be reacting the same way.
    Cheap buses get cheap solutions while the big boys keep making money. What a place !
    Good suggestions Marc. Unfortunately "Mai pen rai" will take over and nothing will be done.
    Let's hope for someone with a brain to actually do some critical thinking and bring mass transit in Bangkok into the 21st century!

  • Alex

    Discussion 5 : 02/06/2009 at 11:07 AM5

    Sorry, K. Atiya, but lately your articles always let me down. It's amazing you don't even mention about the "green" part of this project. Now, it is a proven fact that the fleet of incredibly old buses of Bangkok is the top polluting factor in the streets of the city. Keeping them on the streets equals killing Bangkok's citizen, you and I included. Doesn't matter how safe you feel inside your nice car, you'll eventually have to get out of it and walk on a pavement, or cross a street. Personally, I often use motorcycle taxis and I use an anti-particulates respirator mask. Buses working on natural gas are a very good idea. Was there corruption involved in the operation? Let's nail the culprits and find a better solution, but by all means let's not scrap the whole project! What is your alternative, K. Atiya? Do you have any proposal? Do the critics have other proposals? You say there will be new metro/bts lines, so what ? Will they reach every part of this big metropolis? No way. Let's face it: buses might not be the preferred way of RICH Bangkokians, but as for the not-so-rich, well it's not like they have other options. Buses are here to stay, I just want to truly hope that the ones we're going to see on the streets will be more and more green, and not the horrible polluting monsters we see now.
    About the rest, I totally agree with Marc's comment (#3).

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