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Preposterous advice

Manit Techa-apichoke of the City Law Enforcement Department suggests tourists fallen victim to the thetsakij cigarette-butt scam should refuse to pay, or find a real police officer to complain to. What an absurd and preposterous suggestion!

Firstly, how does Khun Manit propose his advice is disseminated to the tourists? Perhaps a leaflet distributed at the Immigration counter warning of this and the dozens of other scams they might fall prey to? I think not.

Moreover, he is completely side-stepping the crux of the matter. The thetsakij should be investigated, charged and prosecuted for extortion by the police. The responsibility for correcting this abuse of power should be upon the shoulders of his department and the police, not upon the victims. Tourists are not aware of the difference between a thetsakij city inspector and a policeman, and feel pressured by the authority figure, as a visiting family member of mine caught with this scam at Chatuchak market once reported: ''There were no bins, and the policeman said if I didn't pay the full amount I would have to go to the station with them''.

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  • Jake Elwood

    Discussion 22 : 07/09/2010 at 02:01 AM22

    It is heartening to see the debate on the "litter police" continuing if not gathering pace. I would like to thank the BP again for their piece of investigative journalism - not done without risk, I might add - which was the catalyst. To the Bangkok Post, readers and posters alike, let's keep this subject going until real change happens, not just an apologetic response from the City Law Enforcement but fundamental change. If we can win this small battle others will be willing to tackle other and bigger issues.

  • Bob Jones

    Discussion 21 : 06/09/2010 at 11:16 PM21

    If you feel you hae been dealt with unfairly by the Litter Patrol, contact a policeman for help?
    But I was stopped by a policeman for unknowingly walking from a non-smoking to a smoking area - I was grabbed by the arm from behind after I had tgaken one step into the non-smoking area - and he tried to get 5,000 baht from me. I got away for 2,000. Believe me, I will never return to
    Thailand again.

  • L S Davies

    Discussion 20 : 06/09/2010 at 09:57 PM20

    The very sad and dispiriting thing about Somsak Pola's letter is that it does reflect at least my experience of the apathetic and 'mai pen rai' attitude of Thai people to political corruption. The Koreans rightly realize that nepotism is the thin end of a very large wedge, but for Thailand it seems too late. As previous posters have noted, and K Somsak makes clear, to Thais there is nothing wrong with hiring a close relative to work for you in public service. To most of the rest of the world, however - or at least the rapidly developing/developed parts of it - it is recognised that this kind of favouritism is at odds with egalitarianism and leads inexorably to a conflict of interest, as the politician puts family before public service.

    Sadly, the whole notion of public service is anathema to Thai politicians to begin with. They are in it for themselves and their nearest and dearest, not their constituents: and until this changes, politics will continue its rotten decline and the military will forever have the excuse (corruption) to stage coup upon coup, dragging the country ever further towards the Burma model. Thai people need to wake up and use their electoral power to send a clear message, or they will continue to get the government they deserve.

  • IAN WENSOR

    Discussion 19 : 06/09/2010 at 04:26 PM19

    Graft and corruption is like a cancer that's so ingrained in Thai psyche that it's now terminal, impossible to cure and will ultimately destroy its host politically, socially and economically.

  • marc vandeursen

    Discussion 18 : 06/09/2010 at 03:04 PM18

    At non-believer
    I am lucky to speak as on of my other languages fluently French and I always talk French with them with a big smile and without making any discussion.
    When they ask me " no speak English" I say very kindly
    "non"
    Live here since 15 year and still waiting my fist fine.

  • Non-believer

    Discussion 17 : 06/09/2010 at 02:17 PM17

    Disc 16: Refelect: Congratualtiosn ,not a single constructive word in your comment. No doubt you have all the answers but are too superior to share them with the rest of us.

  • kasper

    Discussion 16 : 06/09/2010 at 02:12 PM16

    To discussion 15.

    "Get a life or start contribute good ideas (like many already r doing)."

    I think you are right, so lets all send our suggestions for change to "the office for good ideas". Oh no, thats right, it does not exist.

    Nevermind, we can always send our suggestions to the local mayor or city hall, I'm sure he/they will at least reply to or act on the very best of these ideas. Ahh thats right, to my knowledge no foreigner has ever received a reply to anything from a Thai government office.

    Even better, we can just post problems and solutions in BP postbag, as it is a well known fact that the politicians all read BP ... zzzzz

  • Reflect

    Discussion 15 : 06/09/2010 at 01:46 PM15

    Seems BKKP has become a place where foreigner let out their frustrations and show their moral superiority. Where do you think all the xenophobic attitude r coming from? Suggestions, as many offered here, are always welcome but a plain generalization of Thai population and country as land of scam, corrupted, dirty and etc. does not help.

    Should i say all Aussies r drunkard because i see a bunch in Pattaya? russians r mafia? americans r rude b/c my exp at the embassy? indians stink?

    Get a life or start contribute good ideas (like many already r doing).

  • egon

    Discussion 14 : 06/09/2010 at 11:40 AM14

    Disc 11:Your yet-ski comment hits the nail on the head.Thanks.

  • Northman

    Discussion 13 : 06/09/2010 at 10:35 AM13

    Ref Taking Resposibility; i too was shocked by the South Korean Ministers actions.

    But the Koreans are pushing hard for "clean" and "open" government because of voter anger over recent highlighted governmental corruption and nepotism.

    I assume the way Thais slavishly copy all things Korean, that we will soon see Thai politicians following this trait too?

    Nah....not in "Amazing" Thailand!

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