Do you feel lengthy prison terms discourage drug smuggling more than a death sentence? A recent opinion piece on a Thai drug smuggler suggested it does.

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Do you feel lengthy prison terms discourage drug smuggling more than a death sentence? A recent opinion piece on a Thai drug smuggler suggested it does.

Do you feel lengthy prison terms discourage drug smuggling more than a death sentence? A recent opinion piece on a Thai drug smuggler suggested it does.

  • Start date:Oct 13, 2012
  • End date:Oct 14, 2012
  • Voters: 6,219 times
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  • Discussion 13 : 15 Oct 2012 at 06.2813

    ravbrat, re D11, + elvis, D12
    I am happy to oblige your reasonable request. And Thanks for the initial helpful suggestions.
    For compelling factual evidence that criminalisation does not lead to less drug use, see, for example, the study by Harvard University researcher Jeffrey Miron, "Alcohol Consumption during Prohibition".

    For even more compelling evidence that legalisation does not lead to any sharp increase in drug use, see the 2009 white paper by Glenn Greewald "Drug Decriminalization in Portugal: Lessons for Creating Fair and Successful Drug Policies" - a meticulously sourced examination of the results of legalising all drugs in Portugal in 2001. An easier introduction setting out the relevant facts is the Forbes report "Ten Years After Decriminalization, Drug Abuse Down by Half in Portugal" - the accurate headline just about says it all! Google for the links. There is far more solid evidence available. I invite you to do some research to learn the facts.

  • Discussion 12 : 14 Oct 2012 at 06.5412

    @Ravbrat D12, google 'drug legislation in the Netherlands' (that's where I'm from) or Switzerland, for that matter. Pot is pretty much legal, and most other drugs are de-criminalized in these countries. A lot of felixqiu's facts can be found there.

  • Discussion 11 : 13 Oct 2012 at 17.1111

    Felixqui, I would love to read the scientific studies that show legalizing, pot, meth, crack, heroin and others actually don't increase use or increase negative societal consequences, can you provide those studies to back up your claim? Perhaps since the drugs aren't legal no scientific studies can be performed to validate your 'facts' so basically the statement is just an opinion, is this true?

  • Discussion 10 : 13 Oct 2012 at 16.4710

    ravbrat, D10,
    The facts show that legalisation does not increase use, but makes treatment easier and saves a fortune, whilst allowing police to work on actual crimes like murder, rape, theft, fraud and corruption. How is this worse than the current situation?

    How could legalising drugs possibly be a bad thing when it does not increase use but makes real solutions possible?

  • Discussion 9 : 13 Oct 2012 at 15.449

    Longer prison sentences for smugglers won't deter them in any significant number. To get a large amount of money for doing something that the smuggler thinks is really easy and quick is a powerful incentive. However, Greed is a very powerful thing and it typically blinds the person from thinking logically. Before they can understand this - it is too late and they are in jail.

    Legalizing serious addictive drugs is an insane idea and anyone who thinks it is OK has never actually seen, felt or experienced the effects on the lives of those it entraps. I don't believe there is any simple or quick solution and any solution will likely involve parental participation, support and responsibility with their kids - but nowadays I don't see that.

  • Discussion 8 : 13 Oct 2012 at 14.118

    Khun Felixqui #6, please, go to Youtube and watch "PBS Frontline-The Meth Epidemic" and see for yourself how illegal drugs ruin people's lives in a hurry. If illegal drugs don't destroy people's brains, and alter their minds, so they can keep their jobs, nobody would care at all. But when most drug addicts can't keep their jobs, so they have to resort to criminality in order to feed their drug addiction, then illegal drugs become a very serious problem. Do you think it is a good thing for any society to be full of drug addicts, instead of healthy and productive people? I guess that's what the drug-related death penalty is all about.

  • Discussion 7 : 13 Oct 2012 at 12.227

    Poor and uneducated people take huge risks because they dream about a better future. Sure, they don’t have to become criminals but sometimes I understand why they are tempted to go that way – especially if they see every day on TV that lots of rich criminals run around free and laugh at the system.
    It seems many Thai politicians want to keep lots of people poor and uneducated. So who should really be in jail or be executed?

  • Discussion 6 : 13 Oct 2012 at 11.346

    First, is it even just to punish adults for doing something that does not directly harm others? Of the millions of yaa baa users in Thailand, teh vast majority to not harm anyone else. And much of the harm that does arise is due to high prices and mafia involvement that are direct results of making some drugs illegal for no just reason.

    Second, that a policy works does not make it acceptable. Singapore's policy works, but is grossly immoral. It is nothing more than one small group using draconian punishment to force everyone to live according their personal prejudices.

    Finally, whether something works or not is an emperical matter to be decided by looking at facts, not what ill-informed voters here might think. The facts, as seen in the US experience with prohibition and the Portuguese experience with legalizing ALL drugs is that legalisation does NOT lead to any sharp increase in drug use, nor does criminalisation lead to any sharp drop.

  • Discussion 5 : 13 Oct 2012 at 09.395

    Lengthy prison sentences lead to even more over crowding of the prisons. Take Bang Kwang for example. Hardly ever inmates get released from this prison,since all inmates are in for at least 25 years, but it almost daily takes new inmates. As a result this dreadful place is bursting at the seams.
    I don't believe anything would ever work as a deterrent as long as there is a lot of money in smuggling and mules will always be readily available in countries with a lot of poor people willing to take the risk. The only way to effectively tackle some of the problems is bring down demand through education and poverty reduction. And we have to realize that no country has ever been, or will ever be drug free.

  • Discussion 4 : 13 Oct 2012 at 09.224

    Since it is apparent that these criminals continue running their drugs even while in prison what good does it do to allow the practice to continue?


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