Retirement visa woes
I would very much appreciate if you can publish the following open letter to Gen Chakthip Chaijinda and Maj Gen Sompong Chindua. I strongly believe that it is of utmost importance for them to be aware of the confusion and dissatisfaction regarding the changed requirements for extending retirement visas imposed by the previous immigration commissioner. Many financially secured retirees have already relocated to other neighbouring countries, while others expressed intention to do so in the near future (See ThaiVisa forum). This will undoubtedly will have an adverse economic effect on the many businesses who rely on foreign retirees for their livelihood. Thank you in advance for your anticipated kind cooperation. Here is the letter:
Open letter to national police chief:
I am an American citizen retired in Thailand for six years. During this time, I extended my retirement visa every year without any difficulty. Like many other retired foreigners, I like Thailand very much and am making a positive contribution to Thailand both economically and socially.
The reason I am writing to you is to inform you of the confusion and frustration many foreigners, including myself, feel about the new requirements for extending our retirement visa. This confusion began when some foreign embassies stopped issuing income verification. We all respect and accept Thailand's requirement of having a minimum income to receive a retirement visa as it is very fair and valid for Thailand to expect retired foreigners to have enough income to be able to live independently and contribute to the economy, and the majority of foreigners (including myself) have more than the required income amount to qualify for the retirement visa. In my case, I have a pension, rental income from a property I own in New York, and dividends from stocks that total more than $5,700 (176,700 baht) a month -- which is much more than the 65,000-baht monthly income required for extending a retirement visa. As indicated on the official immigration website, to receive an extension:
"The alien:
(1) Must have been granted a non-immigrant visa (NON-IM).
(2) Must be 50 years of age or over.
(3) Must have evidence of having income of no less than Baht 65,000 per month;
or
(4) On the filing date, the applicant must have account deposited (saving / fixed account) in a bank in Thailand of no less than Baht 800,000 for the past three months. For the first year only, the applicant must have proof of a deposit account in which said amount of funds has been maintained for no less than 60 days prior to the filing date; or
(5) Must have an annual earning and funds deposited with a bank totaling no less than 800,000 baht as of the filing date.
Documents to be submitted
1. Application form
2. Copy of applicant's passport
3. Evidence of income such as a retirement pension, interest or dividends;" (Seehttps://www.immigration.go.th/content/service_22).
Although the above requirements are very simple and clearly specify that "Evidence of income such as a retirement pension, interest or dividends" is required, each immigration office seems to interpret differently of what is legitimate and valid evidence of income. Foreigners, including myself, who don't hide their income from their own government, deposit their pension, dividends, rental, and other income in their local bank. With the internet, it is very simple and effective for us to print our monthly bank statements as evidence of our income. In fact, if an immigration officer feels that they need further confirmation to make sure that the bank statement is legitimate, the officer can require the foreigner to log into their bank account and display the same bank statements on the computer screen in the presence of the immigration officer.
Many foreigners find it impractical and costly to transfer funds to a Thai bank and then withdraw it as needed. I, like many others, prefer to withdraw money from my foreign bank as I need it by using an ATM machine because I get a very favourable exchange rate, and my bank (as do many foreign banks) reimburses me the 220-baht ATM fee charged by the Thai bank.
I hope you will issue a clarification that will allow us to provide foreign monthly bank statements for an entire year as proper evidence of income to avoid confusion among foreigners and have consistency across all immigration offices.
Many retired foreigners have already left or planning to leave Thailand because of the difficult and confusing requirements immigration offices have now. There is no doubt that many Thai businesses will suffer economically because of the loss of business that will result from foreigners leaving Thailand.
Mark M